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From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	shawnguo@kernel.org, s.hauer@pengutronix.de,
	arm-soc <arm@kernel.org>, netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] ARM: dts: imx51: ZII: Add missing phy-mode
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2023 11:37:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZDPm28C7xXulpG1L@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230410100012.esudvvyik3ck7urr@skbuf>

On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 01:00:12PM +0300, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 07, 2023 at 06:10:31PM +0200, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 07, 2023 at 06:41:59PM +0300, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> > > In theory, an MII MAC-to-MAC connection should have phy-mode = "mii" on
> > > one end and phy-mode = "rev-mii" on the other, right?
> > 
> > In theory, yes. As far as i understand, it makes a difference to where
> > the clock comes from. rev-mii is a clock provider i think.
> > 
> > But from what i understand of the code, and the silicon, this property
> > is going to be ignored, whatever value you give it. phy-mode is only
> > used and respected when the port can support 1000Base-X, SGMII, and
> > above, or use its built in PHY. For MII, GMII, RMII, RGMII the port
> > setting is determined by strapping resistors.
> > 
> > The DSA core however does care that there is a phy-mode, even if it is
> > ignored. I hope after these patches land we can turn that check into
> > enforce mode, and that then unlocks Russell to make phylink
> > improvement.
> 
> Actually, looking at mv88e6xxx_translate_cmode() right now, I guess it's
> not exactly true that the value is going to be ignored, whatever it is.
> A CMODE of MV88E6XXX_PORT_STS_CMODE_MII_PHY is not going to be translated
> into "rev-mii", but into "mii", same as MV88E6XXX_PORT_STS_CMODE_MII.
> Same for MV88E6XXX_PORT_STS_CMODE_RMII_PHY ("rmii" and not "rev-rmii").
> So, when given "rev-mii" or "rev-rmii" as phy modes in the device tree,
> the generic phylink validation procedure should reject them for being
> unsupported.
> 
> This means either the patch set moves forward with v1, or the driver is
> fixed to accept the dedicated PHY modes for PHY roles.
> 
> Russell, what do you think?

I'm afraid I didn't bother trying to understand all the *MII modes
that Marvell document poorly in their functional specification,
especially when they document that e.g. RMII_PHY mode can also be
used to connect to a PHY. I took their table with a pinch of salt
and did what I thought was best.

It is entirely possible that some are wrong, especially as we don't
document what the various PHY_INTERFACE_MODE_* mean in the kernel
(remember that I started doing that).

As far as phylink, it treats REV*MII and the corresponding *MII
mode the same way in terms of their capabilities, but as you say
it will determine which mode will be acceptable.

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-10 10:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-07 15:25 [PATCH 0/3] Add missing DSA properties for marvell switches Andrew Lunn
2023-04-07 15:25 ` [PATCH 1/3] ARM: dts: imx51: ZII: Add missing phy-mode Andrew Lunn
2023-04-07 15:41   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-04-07 16:10     ` Andrew Lunn
2023-04-07 16:50       ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-04-07 17:06         ` Andrew Lunn
2023-04-10 10:00       ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-04-10 10:37         ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2023-04-10 15:24           ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-04-10 11:59         ` Andrew Lunn
2023-04-10 12:35         ` Andrew Lunn
2023-04-10 13:11           ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-04-10 14:56             ` Andrew Lunn
2023-04-07 15:25 ` [PATCH 2/3] ARM: dts: imx6qdl: Add missing phy-mode and fixed links Andrew Lunn
2023-04-07 15:25 ` [PATCH 3/3] ARM64: dts: freescale: ZII: Add missing phy-mode Andrew Lunn

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