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From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
Cc: Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Woojung Huh <woojung.huh@microchip.com>,
	Arun Ramadoss <arun.ramadoss@microchip.com>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, UNGLinuxDriver@microchip.com,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	kernel@pengutronix.de, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: FWD: Re: [PATCH net-next v1 1/1] net: dsa: microchip: ksz8: Make flow control, speed, and duplex on CPU port configurable
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2023 14:33:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZDVhjJgEUz7XCdBC@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230411132617.nonvvtll7xxvadhr@skbuf>

On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 04:26:17PM +0300, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 01:00:43PM +0100, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> > 	ethtool --pause ... autoneg on
> > 	ethtool --pause ... autoneg off rx off tx off
> > 	ethtool --pause ... autoneg off rx on tx on
> > 
> > Anything else wouldn't give the result the user wants, because there's
> > no way to independently force rx and tx flow control per port.
> 
> Right.
> 
> > That said, phylink doesn't give enough information to make the above
> > possible since the force bit depends on (tx && rx &&!permit_pause_to_mac)
> 
> So, since the "permit_pause_to_mac" information is missing here, I guess
> the next logical step based on what you're saying is that it's a matter
> of not using the pcs_config() API, or am I misunderstanding again? :)

pcs_config() doesn't get the "tx" and "rx" above. mac_link_up() does,
but doesn't get the "permit_pause_to_mac" (since that's supposed to
be a "configuration" thing.)

Anyway, I think this is now moot since I think we've agreed on a way
forward for this hardware.

> > So, because this hardware is that crazy, I suggest that it *doesn't*
> > even attempt to support ethtool --pause, and either is programmed
> > at setup time to use autonegotiated pause (with the negotiation state
> > programmed via ethtool -s) or it's programmed to have pause globally
> > disabled. Essentially, I'm saying the hardware is too broken in its
> > design to be worth bothering trying to work around its weirdness.
> 
> Ok. How can this driver reject changes made through ethtool --pause?

We would need either something in DSA (dsa_slave_set_pauseparam()) to
prevent success, or something in phylink_ethtool_set_pauseparam() to
do the same.

At the phylink level, that could be a boolean in struct phylink_config.
Something like "disable_ethtool_set_pauseparam" (I'd prefer something
a tad shorter) which if set would make phylink_ethtool_set_pauseparam()
return -EOPNOTSUPP.

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-11 13:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <7055f8c2-3dba-49cd-b639-b4b507bc1249@lunn.ch>
2023-04-07 17:44 ` FWD: Re: [PATCH net-next v1 1/1] net: dsa: microchip: ksz8: Make flow control, speed, and duplex on CPU port configurable Russell King (Oracle)
2023-04-11  8:56   ` Oleksij Rempel
2023-04-11  9:17     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-04-11  9:55       ` Oleksij Rempel
2023-04-11 11:16       ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-04-11 11:35         ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-04-11 12:00           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-04-11 12:16             ` Andrew Lunn
2023-04-11 13:26             ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-04-11 13:33               ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2023-04-11 14:28                 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-04-11 11:50         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-04-11 13:12           ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-04-11 13:26             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-04-11 14:33   ` Vladimir Oltean

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