From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (lindbergh.monkeyblade.net [23.128.96.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 788D8648 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2023 03:47:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pl1-x636.google.com (mail-pl1-x636.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::636]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17EFC269D; Thu, 15 Jun 2023 20:47:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pl1-x636.google.com with SMTP id d9443c01a7336-1b3c5631476so559105ad.1; Thu, 15 Jun 2023 20:47:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1686887265; x=1689479265; h=in-reply-to:content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id :subject:cc:to:from:date:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=8GyQ85VgE5HFZ0QoRvTjedg0ikS7YWehL0KdgFuB0I4=; b=DyQuM9eq/fT3r6JXe65o6F4iYy4txn1JUBibM4Ls+oGYEfhmA8ZDuUQ9dVL4eQtX3f +OvnpYaIif7rhYStQoCQroDsvpgzlgT0z9CRnAC834S/4SX02w+QugWZDIu5aSQIRHYf qPwJ8zEi0SXsIGJ+01v2GD2YOSQVWHFYtlVudTTle2F/sgUPEmdOMWJhQvvaXAP8R1Eq sPbcbSBd01nKhRakY9RGem4EnhB6Zyy0P1RmpF/wlPCgx++hsTW7dRBZnEjwNhb2X+bl pfTFFncJA4N2LTkKRe5PUrAedpu7ZQ8UfVDta1sNLuZH6F+MjbyEpD1gFWo7st/QnQ8q 5CQg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1686887265; x=1689479265; h=in-reply-to:content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id :subject:cc:to:from:date:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=8GyQ85VgE5HFZ0QoRvTjedg0ikS7YWehL0KdgFuB0I4=; b=WDJtaO038pD25TClCGU8Xjn/j8XtLM9YFnpb9fU45Tf1gSlPicdpJ1iUlScOPKqHZS w8THU41mqhjSqg17PHWNRWQ1IQ07K4x1IRkwfswylzZ2cLu4KDTeqk7RaOAYhU6DLTFw LYh4lXw+b+UnORRKeSsZkuokRj9RZAIQljiw3ldfkpuU2JVW8P9LLKq4jcuhOlmVc22q iceUlx7jqTSH0ELh+jQj6c1UPE5Vp+YDMVoKVU2UZFs6txdjvaNrtabDFy4d7GCys3Oc Ja1QW8TYyTfjl1YL9r9drxIaOSmlOX12bZAc1JENuWdPDbcY3PER1tjU2T0AInLpNfQ5 kQ3A== X-Gm-Message-State: AC+VfDzbCba5oAlv9Kcb8wt6bqFhIsFs4CH/zUYQz+uUlb+2x9GBqSQw cbEtl9iDr08WEeSJ3KywRwY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACHHUZ7B1nIw/BMdoGiOyxY/b5GiViNkkWLh1bTN/tjPjRux8dVj4z2dP6dXP9uIlV/qH1Dvo1h+aA== X-Received: by 2002:a17:903:2451:b0:1b0:34c6:3bf2 with SMTP id l17-20020a170903245100b001b034c63bf2mr989715pls.5.1686887265439; Thu, 15 Jun 2023 20:47:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hoboy.vegasvil.org ([2601:640:8200:e:e2d5:5eff:fea5:802f]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id io21-20020a17090312d500b001a5fccab02dsm14736225plb.177.2023.06.15.20.47.44 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 15 Jun 2023 20:47:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2023 20:47:43 -0700 From: Richard Cochran To: Jakub Kicinski Cc: Andrew Lunn , FUJITA Tomonori , netdev@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, aliceryhl@google.com, miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] Rust abstractions for network device drivers Message-ID: References: <20230613045326.3938283-1-fujita.tomonori@gmail.com> <20230614230128.199724bd@kernel.org> <8e9e2908-c0da-49ec-86ef-b20fb3bd71c3@lunn.ch> <20230615190252.4e010230@kernel.org> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20230615190252.4e010230@kernel.org> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 07:02:52PM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote: > IMO we have too much useless playground stuff in C already, don't get me > started. Let's get a real device prove that this thing can actually work > :( We can waste years implementing imaginary device drivers that nobody > ends up using. Yes, the long standing policy seems to be not to merge "dummy" drivers. The original PTP patch set had one, but at the time the reviews said firmly "No" to that. Thanks, Richard