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From: Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@google.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
Cc: "Mina Almasry" <almasrymina@google.com>,
	"Willem de Bruijn" <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>,
	"David Ahern" <dsahern@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Jesper Dangaard Brouer" <hawk@kernel.org>,
	"Ilias Apalodimas" <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>, "Shuah Khan" <shuah@kernel.org>,
	"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Shakeel Butt" <shakeelb@google.com>,
	"Jeroen de Borst" <jeroendb@google.com>,
	"Praveen Kaligineedi" <pkaligineedi@google.com>,
	"Willem de Bruijn" <willemb@google.com>,
	"Kaiyuan Zhang" <kaiyuanz@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 09/12] net: add support for skbs with unreadable frags
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2023 14:23:20 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZUq42Po1Pn-9QxrM@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANn89iJNR8bYYBO92=f5_2hFoTK8+giH11o-7NHURoahwvV11w@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/07, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 10:05 PM Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@google.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> > I don't understand. We require an elaborate setup to receive devmem cmsgs,
> > why would some random application receive those?
> 
> 
> A TCP socket can receive 'valid TCP packets' from many different sources,
> especially with BPF hooks...
> 
> Think of a bonding setup, packets being mirrored by some switches or
> even from tc.
> 
> Better double check than be sorry.
> 
> We have not added a 5th component in the 4-tuple lookups, being "is
> this socket a devmem one".
> 
> A mix of regular/devmem skb is supported.

Can we mark a socket as devmem-only? Do we have any use-case for those
hybrid setups? Or, let me put it that way: do we expect API callers
to handle both linear and non-linear cases correctly?
As a consumer of the previous versions of these apis internally,
I find all those corner cases confusing :-( Hence trying to understand
whether we can make it a bit more rigid and properly defined upstream.

But going back to that MSG_SOCK_DEVMEM flag. If the application is
supposed to handle both linear and devmem chucks, why do we need
this extra MSG_SOCK_DEVMEM opt-in to signal that it's able to process
it? From Mina's reply, it seemed like MSG_SOCK_DEVMEM is there to
protect random applications that get misrouted devmem skb. I don't
see how returning EFAULT helps in that case.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-07 22:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-06  2:43 [RFC PATCH v3 00/12] Device Memory TCP Mina Almasry
2023-11-06  2:44 ` [RFC PATCH v3 01/12] net: page_pool: factor out releasing DMA from releasing the page Mina Almasry
2023-11-06  2:44 ` [RFC PATCH v3 02/12] net: page_pool: create hooks for custom page providers Mina Almasry
2023-11-07  7:44   ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-09 11:09   ` Paolo Abeni
2023-11-10 23:19   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-13  3:28     ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-13 22:10       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-06  2:44 ` [RFC PATCH v3 03/12] net: netdev netlink api to bind dma-buf to a net device Mina Almasry
2023-11-10 23:16   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-06  2:44 ` [RFC PATCH v3 04/12] netdev: support binding dma-buf to netdevice Mina Almasry
2023-11-07  7:46   ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-07 21:59     ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-08  3:40       ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-09  2:22         ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-09  9:29           ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-08 23:47   ` David Wei
2023-11-09  2:25     ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-09  8:29   ` Paolo Abeni
2023-11-10  2:59     ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-10  7:38       ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-10  9:45         ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-10 23:19   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-11  2:19     ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-06  2:44 ` [RFC PATCH v3 05/12] netdev: netdevice devmem allocator Mina Almasry
2023-11-06 23:44   ` David Ahern
2023-11-07 22:10     ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-07 22:55       ` David Ahern
2023-11-07 23:03         ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-09  1:15           ` David Wei
2023-11-10 14:26           ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-11-11 17:19             ` David Ahern
2023-11-14 16:09               ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-11-09  1:00         ` David Wei
2023-11-08  3:48       ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-09  1:41         ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-07  7:45   ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-09  8:44   ` Paolo Abeni
2023-11-06  2:44 ` [RFC PATCH v3 06/12] memory-provider: dmabuf devmem memory provider Mina Almasry
2023-11-06 21:02   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2023-11-06 23:49   ` David Ahern
2023-11-08  0:02     ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-08  0:10       ` David Ahern
2023-11-10 23:16   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-13  4:54     ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-06  2:44 ` [RFC PATCH v3 07/12] page-pool: device memory support Mina Almasry
2023-11-07  8:00   ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-07 21:56     ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-08 10:56       ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-09  3:20         ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-09  9:30           ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-09 12:20             ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-09 13:23               ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-09  9:01   ` Paolo Abeni
2023-11-06  2:44 ` [RFC PATCH v3 08/12] net: support non paged skb frags Mina Almasry
2023-11-07  9:00   ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-07 21:19     ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-08 11:25       ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-09  9:14   ` Paolo Abeni
2023-11-10  4:06     ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-10 23:19   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-13  6:05     ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-13 22:17       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-06  2:44 ` [RFC PATCH v3 09/12] net: add support for skbs with unreadable frags Mina Almasry
2023-11-06 18:47   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2023-11-06 19:34     ` David Ahern
2023-11-06 20:31       ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-06 21:59         ` Stanislav Fomichev
2023-11-06 22:18           ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-06 22:59             ` Stanislav Fomichev
2023-11-06 23:27               ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-06 23:55                 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2023-11-07  0:07                   ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-11-07  0:14                     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2023-11-07  0:59                       ` Stanislav Fomichev
2023-11-07  2:23                         ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-11-07 17:44                           ` Stanislav Fomichev
2023-11-07 17:57                             ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-11-07 18:14                               ` Stanislav Fomichev
2023-11-07  0:20                     ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-07  1:06                       ` Stanislav Fomichev
2023-11-07 19:53                         ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-07 21:05                           ` Stanislav Fomichev
2023-11-07 21:17                             ` Eric Dumazet
2023-11-07 22:23                               ` Stanislav Fomichev [this message]
2023-11-10 23:17                                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-10 23:19                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-07  1:09                       ` David Ahern
2023-11-06 23:37             ` David Ahern
2023-11-07  0:03               ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-06 20:56   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2023-11-07  0:16   ` David Ahern
2023-11-07  0:23     ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-08 14:43   ` David Laight
2023-11-06  2:44 ` [RFC PATCH v3 10/12] tcp: RX path for devmem TCP Mina Almasry
2023-11-06 18:44   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2023-11-06 19:29     ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-06 21:14       ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-11-06 22:34         ` Stanislav Fomichev
2023-11-06 22:55           ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-11-06 23:32             ` Stanislav Fomichev
2023-11-06 23:55               ` David Ahern
2023-11-07  0:02                 ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-11-07 23:55                   ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-08  0:01                     ` David Ahern
2023-11-09  2:39                       ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-09 16:07                         ` Edward Cree
2023-12-08 20:12                           ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-11-09 11:05             ` Paolo Abeni
2023-11-10 23:16               ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-12-08 20:28             ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-12-08 20:09           ` Pavel Begunkov
2023-11-06 21:17       ` Stanislav Fomichev
2023-11-08 15:36         ` Edward Cree
2023-11-09 10:52   ` Paolo Abeni
2023-11-10 23:19   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-06  2:44 ` [RFC PATCH v3 11/12] net: add SO_DEVMEM_DONTNEED setsockopt to release RX pages Mina Almasry
2023-11-06  2:44 ` [RFC PATCH v3 12/12] selftests: add ncdevmem, netcat for devmem TCP Mina Almasry
2023-11-09 11:03   ` Paolo Abeni
2023-11-10 23:13   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-11  2:27     ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-11  2:35       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-13  4:08         ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-13 22:20           ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-10 23:17   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-07 15:18 ` [RFC PATCH v3 00/12] Device Memory TCP David Ahern

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