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From: Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo.bianconi@redhat.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com,
	pabeni@redhat.com, bpf@vger.kernel.org, hawk@kernel.org,
	toke@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] xdp: add multi-buff support for xdp running in generic mode
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2023 23:27:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZWZpUaYbgMELGtL8@lore-desk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231128105145.7b39db7d@kernel.org>

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> On Tue, 28 Nov 2023 18:29:20 +0100 Lorenzo Bianconi wrote:
> > @Jakub: iirc we were discussing something similar for veth [0].
> > Here pskb_expand_head() reallocates skb paged data (skb_shinfo()->frags[])
> > just if the skb is cloned and if it is zero-copied [1] while in skb_cow_data()
> > we always reallocate the paged area if skb_shinfo()->nr_frags is set [2].
> > Since the eBPF program can theoretically modify paged data, I would say we
> > should do the same we did for veth even here, right?
> 
> Yes, don't we allow writes to fragments in XDP based on the assumption
> that it runs on Rx so that paged data must not be zero copy?
> bpf_xdp_store_bytes() doesn't seem to have any checks which would
> stop it from writing fragments, as far as I can see.

do you mean in the skb use-case we could write to fragments (without copying
them) if the skb is not cloned and the paged area is not 'zero-copied'?
With respect to this patch it would mean we can rely on pskb_expand_head() to
reallocate the skb and to covert it to a xdp_buff and we do not need to explicitly
reallocate fragments as we currently do for veth in veth_convert_skb_to_xdp_buff() [0].
Is my understanding correct or am I missing something?

Regards,
Lorenzo

[0] https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.6.2/source/drivers/net/veth.c#L738

> 
> I don't see how we can ever correctly support this form of mbuf for veth
> or generic XDP :(

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-28 22:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-27 23:38 [PATCH net-next] xdp: add multi-buff support for xdp running in generic mode Lorenzo Bianconi
2023-11-28  9:45 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2023-11-28 12:02   ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2023-11-28 17:29 ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2023-11-28 18:51   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-28 22:27     ` Lorenzo Bianconi [this message]
2023-11-28 23:10       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-29 16:36         ` Lorenzo Bianconi

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