From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Serge Semin <fancer.lancer@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>,
Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
Alexandre Torgue <alexandre.torgue@foss.st.com>,
Jose Abreu <joabreu@synopsys.com>,
Jose Abreu <Jose.Abreu@synopsys.com>,
Tomer Maimon <tmaimon77@gmail.com>,
Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
openbmc@lists.ozlabs.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 09/16] net: mdio: Add Synopsys DW XPCS management interface support
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:02:27 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZXHQcyZbXwesy0MV@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jqwhgthwxfge6y4nv5mdnojqu76m4pi2mt2x6kwqiuqntcwj67@mewh42eey5ny>
On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 04:35:47PM +0300, Serge Semin wrote:
> Hi Andrew
>
> On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 06:01:30PM +0100, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > The compiler does a better job at deciding what to inline than we
> > humans do. If you can show the compiler is doing it wrong, then we
> > might accept them.
>
> In general I would have agreed with you especially if the methods were
> heavier than what they are:
> static inline ptrdiff_t dw_xpcs_mmio_addr_format(int dev, int reg)
> {
> return FIELD_PREP(0x1f0000, dev) | FIELD_PREP(0xffff, reg);
> }
>
> static inline u16 dw_xpcs_mmio_addr_page(ptrdiff_t csr)
> {
> return FIELD_GET(0x1fff00, csr);
> }
>
> static inline ptrdiff_t dw_xpcs_mmio_addr_offset(ptrdiff_t csr)
> {
> return FIELD_GET(0xff, csr);
> }
>
> > But in general, netdev does not like inline in .C
> > file.
>
> I see. I'll do as you say if you don't change your mind after my
> reasoning below.
This isn't Andrew saying it - you seem to have missed the detail that
"netdev". If Andrew doesn't say it, then DaveM, Jakub or Paolo will.
Have you read the "Inline functions" section in
Documentation/process/4.Coding.rst ?
> > Also, nothing in MDIO is hot path, it spends a lot of time
> > waiting for a slow bus. So inline is likely to just bloat the code for
> > no gain.
>
> I would have been absolutely with you in this matter, if we were talking
> about a normal MDIO bus. In this case the devices are accessed over
> the system IO-memory. So the bus isn't that slow.
>
> Regarding the compiler knowing better when to inline the code. Here is
> what it does with the methods above. If the inline keyword is
> specified the compiler will inline all three methods. If the keyword isn't
> specified then dw_xpcs_mmio_addr_format() won't be inlined while the rest
> two functions will be. So the only part at consideration is the
> dw_xpcs_mmio_addr_format() method since the rest of the functions are
> inlined anyway.
>
> The dw_xpcs_mmio_addr_format() function body is of the 5 asm
> instructions length (on MIPS). Since the function call in this case
> requires two jump instructions (to function and back), one instruction
> to save the previous return address on stack and two instructions for
> the function arguments, the trade-off of having non-inlined function
> are those five additional instructions on each call. There are four
> dw_xpcs_mmio_addr_format() calls. So here is what we get in both
> cases:
> inlined: 5 func ins * 4 calls = 20 ins
> non-inlined: (5 func + 1 jump) ins + (1 jump + 1 ra + 2 arg) ins * 4 calls = 22 ins
> but seeing the return address needs to be saved anyway in the callers
> here is what we finally get:
> non-inlined: (5 func + 1 jump) ins + (1 jump + 2 arg) ins * 4 calls = 18 ins
>
> So unless I am mistaken in some of the aspects if we have the function
> non-inlined then we'll save 2 instructions in the object file, but
> each call would require additional _4_ instructions to execute (2
> jumps and 2 arg creations), which makes the function execution almost
> two times longer than it would have been should it was inlined.
Rather than just focusing on instruction count, you also need to
consider things like branch prediction, prefetching and I-cache
usage. Modern CPUs don't execute instruction-by-instruction anymore.
It is entirely possible that the compiler is making better choices
even if it results in more jumps in the code.
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Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-12-05 10:35 [PATCH net-next 00/16] net: pcs: xpcs: Add memory-based management iface support Serge Semin
2023-12-05 10:35 ` [PATCH net-next 01/16] net: pcs: xpcs: Drop sentinel entry from 2500basex ifaces list Serge Semin
2023-12-05 11:24 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-12-05 11:39 ` Serge Semin
2023-12-05 10:35 ` [PATCH net-next 02/16] net: pcs: xpcs: Drop redundant workqueue.h include directive Serge Semin
2023-12-05 13:34 ` Andrew Lunn
2023-12-05 10:35 ` [PATCH net-next 03/16] net: pcs: xpcs: Return EINVAL in the internal methods Serge Semin
2023-12-05 13:34 ` Andrew Lunn
2023-12-05 10:35 ` [PATCH net-next 04/16] net: pcs: xpcs: Explicitly return error on caps validation Serge Semin
2023-12-05 10:35 ` [PATCH net-next 05/16] net: pcs: xpcs: Move native device ID macro to linux/pcs/pcs-xpcs.h Serge Semin
2023-12-05 10:45 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-12-05 11:14 ` Serge Semin
2023-12-05 11:22 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-12-05 11:48 ` Serge Semin
2023-12-05 11:27 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-12-05 11:49 ` Serge Semin
2023-12-05 10:35 ` [PATCH net-next 06/16] net: pcs: xpcs: Avoid creating dummy XPCS MDIO device Serge Semin
2023-12-05 10:49 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-12-05 11:31 ` Serge Semin
2023-12-05 13:31 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-12-05 13:52 ` Andrew Lunn
2023-12-05 14:50 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-12-12 13:52 ` Serge Semin
2023-12-05 11:52 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-12-13 15:27 ` Serge Semin
2023-12-19 15:48 ` Serge Semin
2023-12-19 16:28 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-12-19 21:48 ` Serge Semin
2023-12-05 13:46 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-12-05 14:54 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-12-12 15:26 ` Serge Semin
2023-12-12 19:06 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-12-13 15:47 ` Serge Semin
2023-12-13 0:01 ` Serge Semin
2023-12-13 16:32 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-12-14 14:19 ` Serge Semin
2023-12-05 10:35 ` [PATCH net-next 07/16] net: pcs: xpcs: Split up xpcs_create() content to sub-functions Serge Semin
2023-12-05 10:35 ` [PATCH net-next 08/16] dt-bindings: net: Add Synopsys DW xPCS bindings Serge Semin
2023-12-14 17:40 ` Rob Herring
2023-12-14 21:27 ` Serge Semin
2023-12-05 10:35 ` [PATCH net-next 09/16] net: mdio: Add Synopsys DW XPCS management interface support Serge Semin
2023-12-05 12:32 ` Maxime Chevallier
2023-12-06 16:48 ` Serge Semin
2023-12-06 17:01 ` Andrew Lunn
2023-12-07 13:35 ` Serge Semin
2023-12-07 14:02 ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2023-12-07 14:54 ` Andrew Lunn
2023-12-08 16:07 ` Serge Semin
2023-12-05 10:35 ` [PATCH net-next 10/16] net: pcs: xpcs: Add generic DW XPCS MDIO-device support Serge Semin
2023-12-05 11:13 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-12-05 11:35 ` Serge Semin
2023-12-05 12:23 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-12-08 14:11 ` Serge Semin
2023-12-08 16:33 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-12-14 11:54 ` Serge Semin
2023-12-14 12:00 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-12-14 12:28 ` Serge Semin
2023-12-05 10:35 ` [PATCH net-next 11/16] net: pcs: xpcs: Change xpcs_create_mdiodev() suffix to "byaddr" Serge Semin
2023-12-05 23:03 ` kernel test robot
2023-12-07 14:37 ` Serge Semin
2023-12-06 0:29 ` kernel test robot
2023-12-05 10:35 ` [PATCH net-next 12/16] net: pcs: xpcs: Add xpcs_create_bynode() method Serge Semin
2023-12-05 10:35 ` [PATCH net-next 13/16] net: stmmac: intel: Register generic MDIO device Serge Semin
2023-12-06 0:19 ` kernel test robot
2023-12-07 14:47 ` Serge Semin
2023-12-05 10:35 ` [PATCH net-next 14/16] net: stmmac: Pass netdev to XPCS setup function Serge Semin
2023-12-05 10:35 ` [PATCH net-next 15/16] net: stmmac: Add dedicated XPCS cleanup method Serge Semin
2023-12-05 10:35 ` [PATCH net-next 16/16] net: stmmac: Add externally detected DW XPCS support Serge Semin
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