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From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, andrew@lunn.ch, hkallweit1@gmail.com,
	davem@davemloft.net, kuba@kernel.org, pabeni@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [net-next PATCH 2/2] net: phylink: Fix issues with link balancing w/ BMC present
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2025 17:01:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z__URcfITnra19xy@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <174481734008.986682.1350602067856870465.stgit@ahduyck-xeon-server.home.arpa>

On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 08:29:00AM -0700, Alexander Duyck wrote:
> From: Alexander Duyck <alexanderduyck@fb.com>
> 
> This change is meant to address the fact that there are link imbalances
> introduced when using phylink on a system with a BMC. Specifically there
> are two issues.
> 
> The first issue is that if we lose link after the first call to
> phylink_start but before it gets to the phylink_resolve we will end up with
> the phylink interface assuming the link was always down and not calling
> phylink_link_down resulting in a stuck interface.

That is intentional.

phylink strictly orders .mac_link_down and .mac_link_up, and starts from
an initial position that the link _will_ be considered to be down. So,
it is intentional that .mac_link_down will _never_ be called after
phylink_start().

> The second issue is that when a BMC is present we are currently forcing the
> link down. This results in us bouncing the link for a fraction of a second
> and that will result in dropped packets for the BMC.

... but you don't explain how that happens.

> The third issue is just an extra "Link Down" message that is seen when
> calling phylink_resume. This is addressed by identifying that the link
> isn't balanced and just not displaying the down message in such a case.

Hmm, this one is an error, but is not as simple as "don't print the
message" as it results in a violation of the rule I mentioned above.
We need phylink_suspend() to record the state of the link at that
point, and avoid calling phylink_link_down() if the link was down
prior to suspend.

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-16 16:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-16 15:28 [net-next PATCH 0/2] net: phylink: Fix issue w/ BMC link flap Alexander Duyck
2025-04-16 15:28 ` [net-next PATCH 1/2] net: phylink: Drop unused defines for SUPPORTED/ADVERTISED_INTERFACES Alexander Duyck
2025-04-22  8:32   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-16 15:29 ` [net-next PATCH 2/2] net: phylink: Fix issues with link balancing w/ BMC present Alexander Duyck
2025-04-16 16:01   ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2025-04-16 16:16     ` [PATCH net] net: phylink: fix suspend/resume with WoL enabled and link down Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-16 17:14       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-17 14:30       ` Alexander H Duyck
2025-04-17 14:35         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-17 15:23           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-17 17:06             ` Alexander Duyck
2025-04-17 17:27               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-17 19:49                 ` Alexander Duyck
2025-04-22  9:51                   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-22 15:30                     ` Alexander Duyck
2025-04-22 16:00                       ` Andrew Lunn
2025-04-22 20:09                         ` Alexander Duyck
2025-04-23  0:00       ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf
2025-04-16 17:12     ` [net-next PATCH 2/2] net: phylink: Fix issues with link balancing w/ BMC present Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-16 19:03     ` Alexander Duyck
2025-04-16 19:19       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-16 20:05         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-16 22:58           ` Alexander Duyck
2025-04-19 18:11 ` [net-next PATCH 0/2] net: phylink: Fix issue w/ BMC link flap Andrew Lunn
2025-04-20 18:18   ` Alexander Duyck
2025-04-20 21:58     ` Andrew Lunn
2025-04-21 15:51       ` Alexander Duyck
2025-04-21 16:50         ` Alexander Duyck
2025-04-22  1:21           ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-04-22 13:49             ` Andrew Lunn
2025-04-22 15:28               ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-04-22 16:49                 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-04-22 17:30                   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-22 18:13                     ` Andrew Lunn
2025-04-22 18:50                       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-04-22 23:51                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-04-22 21:29                   ` Alexander Duyck
2025-04-22 22:26                     ` Andrew Lunn
2025-04-22 23:06                       ` Alexander Duyck
2025-04-23 18:38                         ` Alexander Duyck
2025-04-24 20:34                         ` Andrew Lunn
2025-04-24 23:40                           ` Alexander Duyck
2025-04-25 13:11                             ` Andrew Lunn
2025-04-25 15:41                               ` Alexander Duyck

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