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From: Saeed Mahameed <saeed@kernel.org>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: "Nelson, Shannon" <shannon.nelson@amd.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Tariq Toukan <tariqt@nvidia.com>,
	Armen Ratner <armeng@nvidia.com>,
	Daniel Jurgens <danielj@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [net-next 15/15] net/mlx5: Implement management PF Ethernet profile
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2024 23:37:28 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZaeDuDSVFs46JffL@x130> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240108185806.6214cbe8@kernel.org>

On 08 Jan 18:58, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
>On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 15:22:12 -0800 Saeed Mahameed wrote:
>> This is embedded core switchdev setup, there is no PF representor, only
>> uplink and VF/SF representors, the term management PF is only FW
>> terminology, since uplink traffic is controlled by the admin, and uplink
>> interface represents what goes in/out the wire, the current FW architecture
>> demands that BMC/NCSI traffic goes through a separate PF that is not the
>> uplink since the uplink rules are managed purely by the eswitch admin.
>
>"Normal way" to talk to the BMC is to send the traffic to the uplink
>and let the NC-SI filter "steal" the frames. There's not need for host
>PF (which I think is what you're referring to when you say there's
>no PF representor).
>
>Can you rephrase / draw a diagram? Perhaps I'm missing something.
>When the host is managing the eswitch for mlx5 AFAIU NC-SI frame
>stealing works fine.. so I'm missing what's different with the EC.

AFAIK it is not implemented via "stealing" from esw, esw is completely
managed by driver, FW has no access to it, the management PF completely
bypasses eswitch to talk to BMC in ConnectX arch.


    ┌─────────────┐            ┌─────────────┐
    │             │            │             │
    │             │            │            ┌┼────────────┐
    │     ┌───────┼────────────┼────────────┼│ mgmt PF    │
    │  BMC│       │ NC-SI      │   ConnectX └┼────────────┘
    │     │       │◄──────────►│             │
    │     │       │            │     NIC     │
    │     │       │            │            ┌┼────────────┐
    │     │       │            │      ┌─────┼│ PF         │
    │     │       │            │      │     └┼────────────┘
    │     │       │            │      │      │
    └─────▼───────┘            └──────▼──────┘
          │phy                        │ phy
          │                           │
          ▼                           ▼
      Management                     Network
        Network


  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-17  7:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-21  0:57 [pull request][net-next 00/15] mlx5 updates 2023-12-20 Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-21  0:57 ` [net-next 01/15] net/mlx5e: Use the correct lag ports number when creating TISes Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-29 22:40   ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf
2023-12-21  0:57 ` [net-next 02/15] net/mlx5: Fix query of sd_group field Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-21  0:57 ` [net-next 03/15] net/mlx5: SD, Introduce SD lib Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-21  0:57 ` [net-next 04/15] net/mlx5: SD, Implement basic query and instantiation Saeed Mahameed
2024-01-05 12:15   ` Jiri Pirko
2024-01-25  7:34     ` Tariq Toukan
2024-01-29  9:21       ` Jiri Pirko
2023-12-21  0:57 ` [net-next 05/15] net/mlx5: SD, Implement devcom communication and primary election Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-21  0:57 ` [net-next 06/15] net/mlx5: SD, Implement steering for primary and secondaries Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-21  0:57 ` [net-next 07/15] net/mlx5: SD, Add informative prints in kernel log Saeed Mahameed
2024-01-05 12:12   ` Jiri Pirko
2024-01-25  7:42     ` Tariq Toukan
2024-01-29  9:20       ` Jiri Pirko
2023-12-21  0:57 ` [net-next 08/15] net/mlx5e: Create single netdev per SD group Saeed Mahameed
2024-01-08 13:36   ` Aishwarya TCV
2024-01-08 13:50     ` Gal Pressman
2024-01-08 15:54       ` Mark Brown
2024-01-08 16:00         ` Gal Pressman
2023-12-21  0:57 ` [net-next 09/15] net/mlx5e: Create EN core HW resources for all secondary devices Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-21  0:57 ` [net-next 10/15] net/mlx5e: Let channels be SD-aware Saeed Mahameed
2024-01-04 22:50   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-08 12:30     ` Gal Pressman
2024-01-09  3:08       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-09 14:15         ` Gal Pressman
2024-01-09 16:00           ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-10 14:09             ` Gal Pressman
2024-01-25  8:01               ` Tariq Toukan
2024-01-26  2:40                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-12-21  0:57 ` [net-next 11/15] net/mlx5e: Support cross-vhca RSS Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-21  0:57 ` [net-next 12/15] net/mlx5e: Support per-mdev queue counter Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-21  0:57 ` [net-next 13/15] net/mlx5e: Block TLS device offload on combined SD netdev Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-21  0:57 ` [net-next 14/15] net/mlx5: Enable SD feature Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-21  0:57 ` [net-next 15/15] net/mlx5: Implement management PF Ethernet profile Saeed Mahameed
2023-12-21  2:45   ` Nelson, Shannon
2023-12-21 22:25     ` Saeed Mahameed
2024-01-04 22:44       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-08 23:22         ` Saeed Mahameed
2024-01-09  2:58           ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-17  7:37             ` Saeed Mahameed [this message]
2024-01-18  2:04               ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-04 22:47 ` [pull request][net-next 00/15] mlx5 updates 2023-12-20 Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-08  1:19   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-08 23:14     ` Saeed Mahameed

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