From: Saeed Mahameed <saeed@kernel.org>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Tariq Toukan <ttoukan.linux@gmail.com>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, Tariq Toukan <tariqt@nvidia.com>,
Gal Pressman <gal@nvidia.com>,
Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [net-next V3 15/15] Documentation: networking: Add description for multi-pf netdev
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 18:10:27 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZdVbk0FLgieu7pfx@x130> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240220173309.4abef5af@kernel.org>
On 20 Feb 17:33, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
>On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 17:26:36 +0200 Tariq Toukan wrote:
>> > There are multiple devlink instances, right?
>>
>> Right.
>
>Just to be clear I'm asking you questions about things which need to
>be covered by the doc :)
>
>> > In that case we should call out that there may be more than one.
>> >
>>
>> We are combining the PFs in the netdev level.
>> I did not focus on the parts that we do not touch.
>
>> Anyway, the interesting info exposed in sysfs is now available through
>> the netdev genl.
>
>Right, that's true.
>
[...]
>Greg, we have a feature here where a single device of class net has
>multiple "bus parents". We used to have one attr under class net
>(device) which is a link to the bus parent. Now we either need to add
>more or not bother with the linking of the whole device. Is there any
>precedent / preference for solving this from the device model
>perspective?
>
>> Now, is this sysfs part integral to the feature? IMO, no. This in-driver
>> feature is large enough to be completed in stages and not as a one shot.
>
>It's not a question of size and/or implementing everything.
>What I want to make sure is that you surveyed the known user space
>implementations sufficiently to know what looks at those links,
>and perhaps ethtool -i.
>Perhaps the answer is indeed "nothing much will care" and given
>we can link IRQs correctly we put that as a conclusion in the doc.
>
>Saying "sysfs is coming soon" is not adding much information :(
>
linking multiple parent devices at the netdev subsystems doesn't add
anything, the netdev abstraction should stop at linking rx/tx channels to
physical irqs and NUMA nodes, complicating the sysfs will required a proper
infrastructure to model the multi-pf mode for all vendors to use uniformly,
but for what? currently there's no configuration mechanism for this feature
yet, and we don't need it at the moment, once configuration becomes necessary,
I would recommend adding one infrastructure to all vendors to register to
at the parent device level, which will handle the sysfs/devlink abstraction,
and leave netdev abstraction as is (IRQ/NUMA) and maybe take this a step
further and give the user control of attaching specific channels to specific
IRQs/NUMA nodes.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-02-21 2:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-02-15 3:07 [pull request][net-next V3 00/15] mlx5 socket direct (Multi-PF) Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-15 3:08 ` [net-next V3 01/15] net/mlx5: Add MPIR bit in mcam_access_reg Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-15 3:08 ` [net-next V3 02/15] net/mlx5: SD, Introduce SD lib Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-15 3:08 ` [net-next V3 03/15] net/mlx5: SD, Implement basic query and instantiation Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-15 3:08 ` [net-next V3 04/15] net/mlx5: SD, Implement devcom communication and primary election Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-15 3:08 ` [net-next V3 05/15] net/mlx5: SD, Implement steering for primary and secondaries Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-15 3:08 ` [net-next V3 06/15] net/mlx5: SD, Add informative prints in kernel log Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-15 3:08 ` [net-next V3 07/15] net/mlx5: SD, Add debugfs Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-15 3:08 ` [net-next V3 08/15] net/mlx5e: Create single netdev per SD group Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-15 3:08 ` [net-next V3 09/15] net/mlx5e: Create EN core HW resources for all secondary devices Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-15 3:08 ` [net-next V3 10/15] net/mlx5e: Let channels be SD-aware Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-15 3:08 ` [net-next V3 11/15] net/mlx5e: Support cross-vhca RSS Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-15 3:08 ` [net-next V3 12/15] net/mlx5e: Support per-mdev queue counter Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-15 3:08 ` [net-next V3 13/15] net/mlx5e: Block TLS device offload on combined SD netdev Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-15 3:08 ` [net-next V3 14/15] net/mlx5: Enable SD feature Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-15 3:08 ` [net-next V3 15/15] Documentation: networking: Add description for multi-pf netdev Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-16 5:23 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-19 15:26 ` Tariq Toukan
2024-02-21 1:33 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-21 2:10 ` Saeed Mahameed [this message]
2024-02-22 7:51 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-02-22 23:00 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-23 1:23 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2024-02-23 2:05 ` Jay Vosburgh
2024-02-23 5:00 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2024-02-23 9:40 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-02-23 23:56 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2024-02-24 12:48 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-02-23 9:36 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-02-28 2:06 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-28 8:13 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-02-28 17:06 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-28 17:43 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-03-02 7:31 ` Saeed Mahameed
2024-02-29 8:21 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-02-29 14:34 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-19 18:04 ` Jiri Pirko
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