From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C437185090 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 13:57:47 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1719410267; cv=none; b=aCyV0WWJ27ZHsKF0FuyqZ8/N+8ToywXmFicPX6xh3tgVAxSD0au6N9EiqpiShgKGXAqtj92Qpi7q71yQyMW9tsJDbxANfcAV64OXJJFl3W04beOShJSfWJ6RhWPxzSbE95sIW+3I4cyrkEbh5NsXN2qrGwZEj88kRhOuUDWjGwk= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1719410267; c=relaxed/simple; bh=Fb9qnoPo3ZJGHdVTGQdBJ3r50yXEqchYRjz8cnEIP1E=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=AYB2jx5nx25BwnSi9TXQROHSXGvFjNz45+Nim0teiyZaofZHhWwiCnKSERgNMZxeqjjPwjQCwP09rhnQDAzBXTefGrqdDfQY96JKsA+8yL5S5bv6SHXSScwq52AEsodR8qVHzP9nIAnOuqwYWzScRAfau0xVbW22r7FYPX1jjzo= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=GKHt/1Ll; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="GKHt/1Ll" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E955EC116B1; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 13:57:46 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1719410267; bh=Fb9qnoPo3ZJGHdVTGQdBJ3r50yXEqchYRjz8cnEIP1E=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=GKHt/1Llcinr2JfjYRBiWtqjXu7Cqzwe6Cu+EnrfegNR3AZFBIQJwMULpAZyTcRH5 qX+1IqdOUbx4nHy3FzPKWZiO4WnmzbpUl3IiUB4On1dA0w56cEuQWRhnDGlBsHuSYg l363KwiFQZmiRB2NdTxHRIu0rZO3L03hKkEqEUsiY/AlH7a8opOQcyldLsPkBsrBD7 Z+vgoDJNOR776PfZp3aqWL3aGHnKlqjjQsFQ5ZpHQFxnDHHLR9PQqQJOE7RhN3jEG5 iuIwdZYECu28/ZSdf2/zU7irm8sQlZeTWiQVUGwOKxnhgpDw92JB9bKIeKsGlbTXWe WSSBFu4DNnadw== Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 09:57:44 -0400 From: Sasha Levin To: Jakub Kicinski Cc: Saeed Mahameed , netdev@vger.kernel.org, pabeni@redhat.com, willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com, borisp@nvidia.com, gal@nvidia.com, cratiu@nvidia.com, rrameshbabu@nvidia.com, steffen.klassert@secunet.com, tariqt@nvidia.com, mingtao@meta.com, knekritz@meta.com Subject: Re: [RFC net-next 01/15] psp: add documentation Message-ID: References: <20240510030435.120935-1-kuba@kernel.org> <20240510030435.120935-2-kuba@kernel.org> <20240510171132.557ba47e@kernel.org> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20240510171132.557ba47e@kernel.org> On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 05:11:32PM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote: >Yes, I should have CCed Meta's folks who work on TLS [1]. Adding them >now. More than happy to facilitate the discussion, maybe Willem can >CC the right Google folks, IDK who else... > >We should start moving with the kernel support, IMO, until we do >the user space implementation is stalled. I don't expect that the >way we install keys in the kernel would be impacted by the handshake. > >[1] https://github.com/facebookincubator/fizz Having worked on this in the past, I was curious about looking at the kernel/userspace implementation, and was surprised there's nothing at all on the userspace side of things. What's the rush in merging this in prior to having a usable, open userspace? Can't they be developed side by side and merged in together? -- Thanks, Sasha