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From: Andrea della Porta <andrea.porta@suse.com>
To: Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/11] dt-bindings: clock: Add RaspberryPi RP1 clock bindings
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2024 20:21:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZsjTLhgubiMN5BXm@apocalypse> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240822-refutable-railroad-a3f111ab1e3f@spud>

Hi Conor and Krzysztof,

On 17:23 Thu 22 Aug     , Conor Dooley wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 11:52:27AM +0200, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> 
> > >>>>> +examples:
> > >>>>> +  - |
> > >>>>> +    #include <dt-bindings/clock/rp1.h>
> > >>>>> +
> > >>>>> +    rp1 {
> > >>>>> +        #address-cells = <2>;
> > >>>>> +        #size-cells = <2>;
> > >>>>> +
> > >>>>> +        rp1_clocks: clocks@18000 {
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The unit address does not match the reg property. I'm surprised that
> > >>>> dtc doesn't complain about that.
> > >>>
> > >>> Agreed. I'll update the address with the reg value in the next release
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> +            compatible = "raspberrypi,rp1-clocks";
> > >>>>> +            reg = <0xc0 0x40018000 0x0 0x10038>;
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This is a rather oddly specific size. It leads me to wonder if this
> > >>>> region is inside some sort of syscon area?
> > >>>
> > >>> >From downstream source code and RP1 datasheet it seems that the last addressable
> > >>> register is at 0xc040028014 while the range exposed through teh devicetree ends
> > >>> up at 0xc040028038, so it seems more of a little safe margin. I wouldn't say it
> > >>> is a syscon area since those register are quite specific for video clock
> > >>> generation and not to be intended to be shared among different peripherals.
> > >>> Anyway, the next register aperture is at 0xc040030000 so I would say we can 
> > >>> extend the clock mapped register like the following:
> > >>>
> > >>> reg = <0xc0 0x40018000 0x0 0x18000>;
> > >>>
> > >>> if you think it is more readable.
> > >>
> > >> I don't care
> > > 
> > > Ack.
> > > 
> > >>>>> +            #clock-cells = <1>;
> > >>>>> +            clocks = <&clk_xosc>;
> > >>>>> +
> > >>>>> +            assigned-clocks = <&rp1_clocks RP1_PLL_SYS_CORE>,
> > >>>
> > >>>> FWIW, I don't think any of these assigned clocks are helpful for the
> > >>>> example. That said, why do you need to configure all of these assigned
> > >>>> clocks via devicetree when this node is the provider of them?
> > >>>
> > >>> Not sure to understand what you mean here, the example is there just to
> > >>> show how to compile the dt node, maybe you're referring to the fact that
> > >>> the consumer should setup the clock freq?
> > >>
> > >> I suppose, yeah. I don't think a particular configuration is relevant
> > >> for the example binding, but simultaneously don't get why you are
> > >> assigning the rate for clocks used by audio devices or ethernet in the
> > >> clock provider node.
> > >>
> > > 
> > > Honestly I don't have a strong preference here, I can manage to do some tests
> > > moving the clock rate settings inside the consumer nodes but I kinda like
> > > the curernt idea of a centralized node where clocks are setup beforehand.
> > > In RP1 the clock generator and peripherals such as ethernet are all on-board
> > > and cannot be rewired in any other way so the devices are not standalone
> > > consumer in their own right (such it would be an ethernet chip wired to an
> > > external CPU). But of course this is debatable, on the other hand the current
> > > approach of provider/consumer is of course very clean. I'm just wondering
> > > wthether you think I should take action on this or we can leave it as it is.
> > > Please see also below.
> > > 
> > >>> Consider that the rp1-clocks
> > >>> is coupled to the peripherals contained in the same RP1 chip so there is
> > >>> not much point in letting the peripherals set the clock to their leisure.
> > >>
> > >> How is that any different to the many other SoCs in the kernel?
> > > 
> > > In fact, it isn't. Please take a look at:
> > >  
> > > arch/arm/boot/dts/st/stm32mp15xx-dhcom-som.dtsi
> > > arch/arm/boot/dts/ti/omap/omap44xx-clocks.dtsi
> > > arch/arm/boot/dts/ti/omap/dra7xx-clocks.dtsi
> > > arch/arm/boot/dts/nxp/imx/imx7d-zii-rpu2.dts
> > > 
> > > and probably many others... they use the same approach, so I assumed it is at
> > > least reasonable to assign the clock rate this way.
> > 
> > Please do not bring some ancient DTS, not really worked on, as example.
> > stm32 could is moderately recent but dra and omap are not.
> 
> Right, there may be some examples like this, but there are many many
> other SoCs where clocks are also not re-wireable, that do not. To me
> this line of argument is akin to the clock driver calling enable on all
> of the clocks because "all of the peripherals are always on the SoC".
> The peripheral is the actual consumer of the clock that quote-unquote
> wants the particular rate, not the clock provider, so having the rate
> assignments in the consumers is the only thing that makes sense to me.
> 
> 

I'll try to cook something that move the rate definition to the consumer
side, then.

Many thanks,
Andrea

  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-23 18:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-20 14:36 [PATCH 00/11] Add support for RaspberryPi RP1 PCI device using a DT overlay Andrea della Porta
2024-08-20 14:36 ` [PATCH 01/11] dt-bindings: clock: Add RaspberryPi RP1 clock bindings Andrea della Porta
2024-08-20 16:19   ` Conor Dooley
2024-08-20 18:25     ` Andrea della Porta
2024-08-21 11:46       ` Conor Dooley
2024-08-22  9:35         ` Andrea della Porta
2024-08-22  9:52           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-08-22 16:23             ` Conor Dooley
2024-08-23 18:21               ` Andrea della Porta [this message]
2024-08-20 14:36 ` [PATCH 02/11] dt-bindings: pinctrl: Add RaspberryPi RP1 gpio/pinctrl/pinmux bindings Andrea della Porta
2024-08-21  8:42   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-08-30 10:22     ` Andrea della Porta
2024-08-30 11:46       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-09-02  8:44         ` Andrea della Porta
2024-08-20 14:36 ` [PATCH 03/11] PCI: of_property: Sanitize 32 bit PCI address parsed from DT Andrea della Porta
2024-08-21 15:24   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-08-26 19:51     ` Andrea della Porta
2024-09-03 22:26       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-09-05 16:43         ` Andrea della Porta
2024-09-05 20:16           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-09-27  6:48             ` Andrea della Porta
2024-09-28 20:17               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-10-06 11:20                 ` Andrea della Porta
2024-10-08  1:08                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-10-18 12:41                     ` Andrea della Porta
2024-10-18 22:28                       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-10-19  8:46                         ` Andrea della Porta
2024-08-20 14:36 ` [PATCH 04/11] of: address: Preserve the flags portion on 1:1 dma-ranges mapping Andrea della Porta
2024-08-21  0:16   ` Rob Herring
2024-08-21  8:18     ` Andrea della Porta
2024-08-26 21:29       ` Rob Herring
2024-08-29 10:13         ` Andrea della Porta
2024-08-29 13:18           ` Rob Herring
2024-08-29 16:26             ` Andrea della Porta
2024-08-30 19:37               ` Rob Herring
2024-09-03  9:09                 ` Herve Codina
2024-09-03  9:33                   ` Andrea della Porta
2024-09-03 18:55                     ` Rob Herring
2024-09-03 16:15                 ` Andrea della Porta
2024-09-03 18:46                   ` Rob Herring
2024-09-04  8:33                     ` Andrea della Porta
2024-08-20 14:36 ` [PATCH 05/11] vmlinux.lds.h: Preserve DTB sections from being discarded after init Andrea della Porta
2024-08-30 19:46   ` Stephen Boyd
2024-09-03 12:29     ` Andrea della Porta
2024-09-21 20:47       ` Stephen Boyd
2024-09-22  8:14         ` Masahiro Yamada
2024-09-23 18:13           ` Stephen Boyd
2024-09-24  2:45             ` Masahiro Yamada
2024-08-20 14:36 ` [PATCH 06/11] clk: rp1: Add support for clocks provided by RP1 Andrea della Porta
2024-08-21 13:17   ` Simon Horman
2024-08-22 10:04     ` Andrea della Porta
2024-08-20 14:36 ` [PATCH 07/11] pinctrl: rp1: Implement RaspberryPi RP1 gpio support Andrea della Porta
2024-08-21  8:45   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-08-30 10:39     ` Andrea della Porta
2024-08-21  9:22   ` kernel test robot
2024-08-21 12:06   ` kernel test robot
2024-08-21 13:27   ` Simon Horman
2024-08-23 17:16     ` Andrea della Porta
2024-08-21 20:51   ` kernel test robot
2024-08-26  8:59   ` Linus Walleij
2024-08-28 15:24     ` Andrea della Porta
2024-09-02  8:31       ` Linus Walleij
2024-08-20 14:36 ` [PATCH 08/11] misc: rp1: RaspberryPi RP1 misc driver Andrea della Porta
2024-08-21  8:38   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-08-21 14:20     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-08-22 14:33       ` Andrea della Porta
2024-08-22 14:46         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-08-30 13:49     ` Andrea della Porta
2024-08-30 14:21       ` Andrew Lunn
2024-09-03 14:56         ` Andrea della Porta
2024-08-30 16:52       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-09-03 15:15         ` Andrea della Porta
2024-09-03 18:27           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-09-05 16:33             ` Andrea della Porta
2024-09-05 16:52               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-09-05 18:54                 ` Andrea della Porta
2024-09-05 21:20                   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-08-21 13:07   ` kernel test robot
2024-08-21 13:49   ` kernel test robot
2024-08-21 16:20   ` Stefan Wahren
2024-08-23  9:44     ` Andrea della Porta
2024-08-23 10:23       ` Stefan Wahren
2024-08-23 16:31         ` Andrea della Porta
2024-08-30 18:27           ` Rob Herring
2024-09-02  9:34             ` Andrea della Porta
2024-08-21 16:55   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-08-23 10:21     ` Andrea della Porta
2024-08-21 17:56   ` kernel test robot
2024-08-24  1:53   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-08-26  9:07     ` Andrea della Porta
2024-08-26  9:18       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-08-20 14:36 ` [PATCH 09/11] arm64: defconfig: Enable RP1 misc/clock/gpio drivers as built-in Andrea della Porta
2024-08-21  8:47   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-08-30 22:24     ` Andrea della Porta
2024-08-20 14:36 ` [PATCH 10/11] net: macb: Add support for RP1's MACB variant Andrea della Porta
2024-08-20 15:13   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-08-20 18:31     ` Andrea della Porta
2024-08-21  8:49   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-08-30 22:32     ` Andrea della Porta
2024-08-21 17:01   ` Florian Fainelli
2024-08-26 20:03     ` Andrea della Porta
2024-08-20 14:36 ` [PATCH 11/11] arm64: dts: rp1: Add support for MACB contained in RP1 Andrea della Porta
2024-08-21  8:43   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-08-30 22:33     ` Andrea della Porta
2024-08-21 17:02   ` Florian Fainelli
2024-08-26 20:18     ` Andrea della Porta
2024-08-21 13:42 ` [PATCH 00/11] Add support for RaspberryPi RP1 PCI device using a DT overlay Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-08-22  9:05   ` Andrea della Porta
2024-08-22  9:50     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-08-29 13:11       ` Andrea della Porta
2024-08-22 13:04     ` Andrew Lunn
2024-08-29 12:01       ` Andrea della Porta
2024-08-29 13:04         ` Andrew Lunn
2024-08-29 13:13           ` Andrea della Porta
2024-08-30  5:21           ` Andrea della Porta
2024-08-30 14:10             ` Andrew Lunn
2024-09-02  9:21               ` Andrea della Porta

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