From: Stanislav Fomichev <stfomichev@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC net-next v4 0/9] Add support for per-NAPI config via netlink
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2024 09:22:24 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZwAWQCpSbb4sn0LX@mini-arch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zv9UA1DkmJQkW_sG@LQ3V64L9R2>
On 10/03, Joe Damato wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 03, 2024 at 04:53:13PM -0700, Joe Damato wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 03, 2024 at 04:29:37PM -0700, Stanislav Fomichev wrote:
> > > On 10/01, Joe Damato wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > > 2. This revision seems to work (see below for a full walk through). Is
> > > > this the behavior we want? Am I missing some use case or some
> > > > behavioral thing other folks need?
> > >
> > > The walk through looks good!
> >
> > Thanks for taking a look.
> >
> > > > 3. Re a previous point made by Stanislav regarding "taking over a NAPI
> > > > ID" when the channel count changes: mlx5 seems to call napi_disable
> > > > followed by netif_napi_del for the old queues and then calls
> > > > napi_enable for the new ones. In this RFC, the NAPI ID generation
> > > > is deferred to napi_enable. This means we won't end up with two of
> > > > the same NAPI IDs added to the hash at the same time (I am pretty
> > > > sure).
> > >
> > >
> > > [..]
> > >
> > > > Can we assume all drivers will napi_disable the old queues before
> > > > napi_enable the new ones? If yes, we might not need to worry about
> > > > a NAPI ID takeover function.
> > >
> > > With the explicit driver opt-in via netif_napi_add_config, this
> > > shouldn't matter? When somebody gets to converting the drivers that
> > > don't follow this common pattern they'll have to solve the takeover
> > > part :-)
> >
> > That is true; that's a good point.
>
> Actually, sorry, that isn't strictly true. NAPI ID generation is
> moved for everything to napi_enable; they just are (or are not)
> persisted depending on whether the driver opted in to add_config or
> not.
>
> So, the change does affect all drivers. NAPI IDs won't be generated
> and added to the hash until napi_enable and they will be removed
> from the hash in napi_disable... even if you didn't opt-in to having
> storage.
>
> Opt-ing in to storage via netif_napi_add_config just means that your
> NAPI IDs (and other settings) will be persistent.
>
> Sorry about my confusion when replying earlier.
AFAIA, all control operations (ethtool or similar ones via netlink),
should grab rtnl lock. So as long as both enable/disable happen
under rtnl (and in my mind they should), I don't think there is gonna
be any user-visible side-effects of your change. But I might be wrong,
let's see if others can come up with some corner cases..
prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-04 16:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-01 23:52 [RFC net-next v4 0/9] Add support for per-NAPI config via netlink Joe Damato
2024-10-01 23:52 ` [RFC net-next v4 1/9] net: napi: Make napi_defer_hard_irqs per-NAPI Joe Damato
2024-10-08 22:08 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-10-01 23:52 ` [RFC net-next v4 2/9] netdev-genl: Dump napi_defer_hard_irqs Joe Damato
2024-10-01 23:52 ` [RFC net-next v4 3/9] net: napi: Make gro_flush_timeout per-NAPI Joe Damato
2024-10-08 18:22 ` Joe Damato
2024-10-08 22:10 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-10-01 23:52 ` [RFC net-next v4 4/9] netdev-genl: Dump gro_flush_timeout Joe Damato
2024-10-01 23:52 ` [RFC net-next v4 5/9] net: napi: Add napi_config Joe Damato
2024-10-08 18:19 ` Joe Damato
2024-10-08 22:17 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-10-08 22:28 ` Joe Damato
2024-10-01 23:52 ` [RFC net-next v4 6/9] netdev-genl: Support setting per-NAPI config values Joe Damato
2024-10-08 18:20 ` Joe Damato
2024-10-08 22:19 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-10-08 23:00 ` Joe Damato
2024-10-08 23:19 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-10-08 23:57 ` Joe Damato
2024-10-01 23:52 ` [RFC net-next v4 7/9] bnxt: Add support for persistent NAPI config Joe Damato
2024-10-01 23:52 ` [RFC net-next v4 8/9] mlx5: " Joe Damato
2024-10-01 23:52 ` [RFC net-next v4 9/9] mlx4: Add support for persistent NAPI config to RX CQs Joe Damato
2024-10-03 23:29 ` [RFC net-next v4 0/9] Add support for per-NAPI config via netlink Stanislav Fomichev
2024-10-03 23:53 ` Joe Damato
2024-10-04 2:33 ` Joe Damato
2024-10-04 16:22 ` Stanislav Fomichev [this message]
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