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From: Joe Damato <jdamato@fastly.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, mkarsten@uwaterloo.ca,
	skhawaja@google.com, sdf@fomichev.me, bjorn@rivosinc.com,
	amritha.nambiar@intel.com, sridhar.samudrala@intel.com,
	willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Donald Hunter <donald.hunter@gmail.com>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
	Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>,
	Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [net-next v5 4/9] netdev-genl: Dump gro_flush_timeout
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2024 21:59:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZwdfGOnyjhTtdR0s@LQ3V64L9R2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANn89iLNuzv7hr19FF0u8TsJwDbGcxrs24FqKhmvxMxLPUZBbQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 06:45:11AM +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 6:34 AM Joe Damato <jdamato@fastly.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 09, 2024 at 08:14:40PM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > > On Wed,  9 Oct 2024 00:54:58 +0000 Joe Damato wrote:
> > > > +        name: gro-flush-timeout
> > > > +        doc: The timeout, in nanoseconds, of when to trigger the NAPI
> > > > +             watchdog timer and schedule NAPI processing.
> > >
> > > You gotta respin because we reformatted the cacheline info.
> >
> > Yea, I figured I'd be racing with that change and would need a
> > respin.
> >
> > I'm not sure how the queue works exactly, but it looks like I might
> > also be racing with another change [1], I think.
> >
> > I think I'm just over 24hr and could respin and resend now, but
> > should I wait longer in case [1] is merged before you see my
> > respin?
> 
> I would avoid the rtnl_lock() addition in "netdev-genl: Support
> setting per-NAPI config values"
> before re-sending ?

OK.

> >
> > Just trying to figure out how to get the fewest number of respins
> > possible ;)
> >
> > > So while at it perhaps throw in a sentence here about the GRO effects?
> > > The initial use of GRO flush timeout was to hold incomplete GRO
> > > super-frames in the GRO engine across NAPI cycles.
> >
> > From my reading of the code, if the timeout is non-zero, then
> > napi_gro_flush will flush only "old" super-frames in
> > napi_complete_done.
> >
> > If that's accurate (and maybe I missed something?), then how about:
> >
> > doc: The timeout, in nanoseconds, of when to trigger the NAPI
> >      watchdog timer which schedules NAPI processing. Additionally, a
> >      non-zero value will also prevent GRO from flushing recent
> >      super-frames at the end of a NAPI cycle. This may add receive
> >      latency in exchange for reducing the number of frames processed
> >      by the network stack.
> 
> Note that linux TCP always has a PSH flag at the end of each TSO packet,
> so the latency increase is only possible in presence of tail drop,
> if the last MSS (with the PSH) was dropped.

Would you like me to note that in the doc, as well?

  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-10  4:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-09  0:54 [net-next v5 0/9] Add support for per-NAPI config via netlink Joe Damato
2024-10-09  0:54 ` [net-next v5 1/9] net: napi: Make napi_defer_hard_irqs per-NAPI Joe Damato
2024-10-10  4:10   ` Eric Dumazet
2024-10-09  0:54 ` [net-next v5 2/9] netdev-genl: Dump napi_defer_hard_irqs Joe Damato
2024-10-10  4:11   ` Eric Dumazet
2024-10-09  0:54 ` [net-next v5 3/9] net: napi: Make gro_flush_timeout per-NAPI Joe Damato
2024-10-10  4:13   ` Eric Dumazet
2024-10-09  0:54 ` [net-next v5 4/9] netdev-genl: Dump gro_flush_timeout Joe Damato
2024-10-10  3:14   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-10-10  4:34     ` Joe Damato
2024-10-10  4:45       ` Eric Dumazet
2024-10-10  4:59         ` Joe Damato [this message]
2024-10-09  0:54 ` [net-next v5 5/9] net: napi: Add napi_config Joe Damato
2024-10-10  4:20   ` Eric Dumazet
2024-10-10 15:59     ` Joe Damato
2024-10-10 16:08       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-10-09  0:55 ` [net-next v5 6/9] netdev-genl: Support setting per-NAPI config values Joe Damato
2024-10-10  4:24   ` Eric Dumazet
2024-10-10 15:19     ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-10-10 15:30       ` Eric Dumazet
2024-10-10 16:40         ` Joe Damato
2024-10-11 17:19           ` Eric Dumazet
2024-10-11 17:50             ` Joe Damato
2024-10-09  0:55 ` [net-next v5 7/9] bnxt: Add support for persistent NAPI config Joe Damato
2024-10-10  4:25   ` Eric Dumazet
2024-10-09  0:55 ` [net-next v5 8/9] mlx5: " Joe Damato
2024-10-10  4:26   ` Eric Dumazet
2024-10-09  0:55 ` [net-next v5 9/9] mlx4: Add support for persistent NAPI config to RX CQs Joe Damato
2024-10-10  4:28   ` Eric Dumazet
2024-10-10 16:07     ` Joe Damato
2024-10-10  3:17 ` [net-next v5 0/9] Add support for per-NAPI config via netlink Jakub Kicinski

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