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From: Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>
To: Kory Maincent <kory.maincent@bootlin.com>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
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	Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC net-next v2 15/18] net: pse-pd: Add support for getting and setting port priority
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2024 09:31:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZySR75i3BEzNbjnv@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241031121104.6f7d669c@kmaincent-XPS-13-7390>

On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 12:11:04PM +0100, Kory Maincent wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Oct 2024 07:54:08 +0100
> Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de> wrote:
> 
> > > diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h b/include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h
> > > index a1ad257b1ec1..22664b1ea4a2 100644
> > > --- a/include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h
> > > +++ b/include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h
> > > @@ -1002,11 +1002,35 @@ enum ethtool_c33_pse_pw_d_status {
> > >   * enum ethtool_c33_pse_events - event list of the C33 PSE controller.
> > >   * @ETHTOOL_C33_PSE_EVENT_OVER_CURRENT: PSE output current is too high.
> > >   * @ETHTOOL_C33_PSE_EVENT_OVER_TEMP: PSE in over temperature state.
> > > + * @ETHTOOL_C33_PSE_EVENT_CONNECTED: PD detected on the PSE.
> > > + * @ETHTOOL_C33_PSE_EVENT_DISCONNECTED: PD has been disconnected on the
> > > PSE.
> > > + * @ETHTOOL_C33_PSE_EVENT_PORT_PRIO_STATIC_ERROR: PSE faced an error in
> > > static
> > > + *	port priority management mode.
> > >   */
> > >  
> > >  enum ethtool_c33_pse_events {
> > > -	ETHTOOL_C33_PSE_EVENT_OVER_CURRENT =	1 << 0,
> > > -	ETHTOOL_C33_PSE_EVENT_OVER_TEMP =	1 << 1,
> > > +	ETHTOOL_C33_PSE_EVENT_OVER_CURRENT =		1 << 0,
> > > +	ETHTOOL_C33_PSE_EVENT_OVER_TEMP =		1 << 1,
> > > +	ETHTOOL_C33_PSE_EVENT_CONNECTED =		1 << 2,
> > > +	ETHTOOL_C33_PSE_EVENT_DISCONNECTED =		1 << 3,
> > > +	ETHTOOL_C33_PSE_EVENT_PORT_PRIO_STATIC_ERROR =	1 << 4,
> > > +};  
> > 
> > Same here, priority concept is not part of the spec, so the C33 prefix
> > should be removed.
> 
> Ack. So we assume PoDL could have the same interruption events.
> 
> > > +/**
> > > + * enum pse_port_prio_modes - PSE port priority modes.
> > > + * @ETHTOOL_PSE_PORT_PRIO_DISABLED: Port priority disabled.
> > > + * @ETHTOOL_PSE_PORT_PRIO_STATIC: PSE static port priority. Port priority
> > > + *	based on the power requested during PD classification. This mode
> > > + *	is managed by the PSE core.
> > > + * @ETHTOOL_PSE_PORT_PRIO_DYNAMIC: PSE dynamic port priority. Port priority
> > > + *	based on the current consumption per ports compared to the total
> > > + *	power budget. This mode is managed by the PSE controller.
> > > + */  

After thinking about it more overnight, I wanted to revisit the idea of having
a priority strategy per port. Right now, if one port is set to static or
dynamic mode, all disabled ports seem to have to follow it somehow too. This
makes it feel like we should have a strategy for the whole power domain, not
just for each port.

I'm having trouble imagining how a per-port priority strategy would work in
this setup.

Another point that came to mind is that we might have two different components
here, and we need to keep these two parts separate in follow-up discussions:

- **Budget Evaluation Strategy**: The static approach seems straightforward—if
a class requests more than available, appropriate actions are taken. However,
the dynamic approach has more complexity, such as determining the threshold,
how long violations can be tolerated, and whether a safety margin should be
maintained before exceeding maximum load.

- **Disconnection Policy**: Once a budget violation is detected, this decides
how to react, like which ports should be disconnected and in what order.

Would it make more sense to have a unified strategy for power domains, where we
apply the same budget evaluation mode (static or dynamic) and disconnection
policy to all ports in that domain? This could make the configuration simpler
and the power management more predictable.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-11-01  8:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-30 16:53 [PATCH RFC net-next v2 00/18] Add support for PSE port priority Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 01/18] net: pse-pd: Remove unused pse_ethtool_get_pw_limit function declaration Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 02/18] net: pse-pd: tps23881: Simplify function returns by removing redundant checks Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 03/18] net: pse-pd: tps23881: Use helpers to calculate bit offset for a channel Kory Maincent
2024-10-31  6:18   ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-10-31 21:11   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-11-07 10:47     ` Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 04/18] net: pse-pd: tps23881: Add support for power limit and measurement features Kory Maincent
2024-10-31  6:20   ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 05/18] net: pse-pd: Add support for PSE device index Kory Maincent
2024-10-31  6:27   ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-10-31 21:28     ` Andrew Lunn
2024-11-05  9:33       ` Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 06/18] net: ethtool: Add support for new PSE device index description Kory Maincent
2024-10-31  6:28   ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-10-31 21:29   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-31 21:39   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 07/18] net: ethtool: Add support for ethnl_info_init_ntf helper function Kory Maincent
2024-10-31 21:44   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-11-05  9:37     ` Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 08/18] net: pse-pd: Add support for reporting events Kory Maincent
2024-10-31  6:34   ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-10-31 21:54   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-11-05  9:48     ` Kory Maincent
2024-10-31 22:00   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-11-05  9:41     ` Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 09/18] netlink: specs: Add support for PSE netlink notifications Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 10/18] net: pse-pd: tps23881: Add support for PSE events and interrupts Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 11/18] regulator: Add support for power budget description Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 17:03   ` Mark Brown
2024-10-30 17:22     ` Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 17:31       ` Mark Brown
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 12/18] regulator: dt-bindings: Add regulator-power-budget property Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 13/18] net: pse-pd: Add support for PSE power domains Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 14/18] net: ethtool: Add support for new power domains index description Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 15/18] net: pse-pd: Add support for getting and setting port priority Kory Maincent
2024-10-31  6:54   ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-10-31 11:11     ` Kory Maincent
2024-10-31 17:32       ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-11-05 13:49         ` Kory Maincent
2024-11-05 14:36           ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-11-01  8:31       ` Oleksij Rempel [this message]
2024-11-01 10:23         ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-11-05 10:20           ` Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 16/18] net: ethtool: Add PSE new port priority support feature Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 17/18] netlink: specs: Expand the PSE netlink command with newly supported features Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 18/18] net: pse-pd: pd692x0: Add support for PSE PI priority feature Kory Maincent

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