From: Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>
To: Kory Maincent <kory.maincent@bootlin.com>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Donald Hunter <donald.hunter@gmail.com>,
Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Kyle Swenson <kyle.swenson@est.tech>,
Dent Project <dentproject@linuxfoundation.org>,
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Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC net-next v2 15/18] net: pse-pd: Add support for getting and setting port priority
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2024 11:23:06 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZySsCuOvSnVZnIwq@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZySR75i3BEzNbjnv@pengutronix.de>
On Fri, Nov 01, 2024 at 09:31:43AM +0100, Oleksij Rempel wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 12:11:04PM +0100, Kory Maincent wrote:
> > On Thu, 31 Oct 2024 07:54:08 +0100
> > Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de> wrote:
> >
> > > > diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h b/include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h
> > > > index a1ad257b1ec1..22664b1ea4a2 100644
> > > > --- a/include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h
> > > > +++ b/include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h
> > > > @@ -1002,11 +1002,35 @@ enum ethtool_c33_pse_pw_d_status {
> > > > * enum ethtool_c33_pse_events - event list of the C33 PSE controller.
> > > > * @ETHTOOL_C33_PSE_EVENT_OVER_CURRENT: PSE output current is too high.
> > > > * @ETHTOOL_C33_PSE_EVENT_OVER_TEMP: PSE in over temperature state.
> > > > + * @ETHTOOL_C33_PSE_EVENT_CONNECTED: PD detected on the PSE.
> > > > + * @ETHTOOL_C33_PSE_EVENT_DISCONNECTED: PD has been disconnected on the
> > > > PSE.
> > > > + * @ETHTOOL_C33_PSE_EVENT_PORT_PRIO_STATIC_ERROR: PSE faced an error in
> > > > static
> > > > + * port priority management mode.
> > > > */
> > > >
> > > > enum ethtool_c33_pse_events {
> > > > - ETHTOOL_C33_PSE_EVENT_OVER_CURRENT = 1 << 0,
> > > > - ETHTOOL_C33_PSE_EVENT_OVER_TEMP = 1 << 1,
> > > > + ETHTOOL_C33_PSE_EVENT_OVER_CURRENT = 1 << 0,
> > > > + ETHTOOL_C33_PSE_EVENT_OVER_TEMP = 1 << 1,
> > > > + ETHTOOL_C33_PSE_EVENT_CONNECTED = 1 << 2,
> > > > + ETHTOOL_C33_PSE_EVENT_DISCONNECTED = 1 << 3,
> > > > + ETHTOOL_C33_PSE_EVENT_PORT_PRIO_STATIC_ERROR = 1 << 4,
> > > > +};
> > >
> > > Same here, priority concept is not part of the spec, so the C33 prefix
> > > should be removed.
> >
> > Ack. So we assume PoDL could have the same interruption events.
> >
> > > > +/**
> > > > + * enum pse_port_prio_modes - PSE port priority modes.
> > > > + * @ETHTOOL_PSE_PORT_PRIO_DISABLED: Port priority disabled.
> > > > + * @ETHTOOL_PSE_PORT_PRIO_STATIC: PSE static port priority. Port priority
> > > > + * based on the power requested during PD classification. This mode
> > > > + * is managed by the PSE core.
> > > > + * @ETHTOOL_PSE_PORT_PRIO_DYNAMIC: PSE dynamic port priority. Port priority
> > > > + * based on the current consumption per ports compared to the total
> > > > + * power budget. This mode is managed by the PSE controller.
> > > > + */
>
> After thinking about it more overnight, I wanted to revisit the idea of having
> a priority strategy per port. Right now, if one port is set to static or
> dynamic mode, all disabled ports seem to have to follow it somehow too. This
> makes it feel like we should have a strategy for the whole power domain, not
> just for each port.
>
> I'm having trouble imagining how a per-port priority strategy would work in
> this setup.
>
> Another point that came to mind is that we might have two different components
> here, and we need to keep these two parts separate in follow-up discussions:
>
> - **Budget Evaluation Strategy**: The static approach seems straightforward—if
> a class requests more than available, appropriate actions are taken. However,
> the dynamic approach has more complexity, such as determining the threshold,
> how long violations can be tolerated, and whether a safety margin should be
> maintained before exceeding maximum load.
>
> - **Disconnection Policy**: Once a budget violation is detected, this decides
> how to react, like which ports should be disconnected and in what order.
>
> Would it make more sense to have a unified strategy for power domains, where we
> apply the same budget evaluation mode (static or dynamic) and disconnection
> policy to all ports in that domain? This could make the configuration simpler
> and the power management more predictable.
Except of user reports, do we have documented confirmation about dynamic
Budget Evaluation Strategy in PD692x0 firmware?
Do this configuration bits are what I called Budget Evaluation Strategy?
Version 3.55:
Bits [3..0]—BT port PM mode
0x0: The port power that is used for power management purposes is
dynamic (Iport x Vmain).
0x1: The port power that is used for power management purposes is port
TPPL_BT.
0x2: The port power that is used for power management purposes is
dynamic for non LLDP/CDP/Autoclass ports and TPPL_BT for
LLDP/CDP/Autoclass ports.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-01 10:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-30 16:53 [PATCH RFC net-next v2 00/18] Add support for PSE port priority Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 01/18] net: pse-pd: Remove unused pse_ethtool_get_pw_limit function declaration Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 02/18] net: pse-pd: tps23881: Simplify function returns by removing redundant checks Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 03/18] net: pse-pd: tps23881: Use helpers to calculate bit offset for a channel Kory Maincent
2024-10-31 6:18 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-10-31 21:11 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-11-07 10:47 ` Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 04/18] net: pse-pd: tps23881: Add support for power limit and measurement features Kory Maincent
2024-10-31 6:20 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 05/18] net: pse-pd: Add support for PSE device index Kory Maincent
2024-10-31 6:27 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-10-31 21:28 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-11-05 9:33 ` Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 06/18] net: ethtool: Add support for new PSE device index description Kory Maincent
2024-10-31 6:28 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-10-31 21:29 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-31 21:39 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 07/18] net: ethtool: Add support for ethnl_info_init_ntf helper function Kory Maincent
2024-10-31 21:44 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-11-05 9:37 ` Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 08/18] net: pse-pd: Add support for reporting events Kory Maincent
2024-10-31 6:34 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-10-31 21:54 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-11-05 9:48 ` Kory Maincent
2024-10-31 22:00 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-11-05 9:41 ` Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 09/18] netlink: specs: Add support for PSE netlink notifications Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 10/18] net: pse-pd: tps23881: Add support for PSE events and interrupts Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 11/18] regulator: Add support for power budget description Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 17:03 ` Mark Brown
2024-10-30 17:22 ` Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 17:31 ` Mark Brown
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 12/18] regulator: dt-bindings: Add regulator-power-budget property Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 13/18] net: pse-pd: Add support for PSE power domains Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 14/18] net: ethtool: Add support for new power domains index description Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 15/18] net: pse-pd: Add support for getting and setting port priority Kory Maincent
2024-10-31 6:54 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-10-31 11:11 ` Kory Maincent
2024-10-31 17:32 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-11-05 13:49 ` Kory Maincent
2024-11-05 14:36 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-11-01 8:31 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-11-01 10:23 ` Oleksij Rempel [this message]
2024-11-05 10:20 ` Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 16/18] net: ethtool: Add PSE new port priority support feature Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 17/18] netlink: specs: Expand the PSE netlink command with newly supported features Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 16:53 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v2 18/18] net: pse-pd: pd692x0: Add support for PSE PI priority feature Kory Maincent
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