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From: Mohsin Bashir <mohsin.bashr@gmail.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, alexanderduyck@fb.com,
	alok.a.tiwari@oracle.com, andrew+netdev@lunn.ch, andrew@lunn.ch,
	chuck.lever@oracle.com, davem@davemloft.net,
	donald.hunter@gmail.com, edumazet@google.com, gal@nvidia.com,
	horms@kernel.org, idosch@nvidia.com, jacob.e.keller@intel.com,
	kernel-team@meta.com, kory.maincent@bootlin.com, lee@trager.us,
	pabeni@redhat.com, vadim.fedorenko@linux.dev,
	kernel@pengutronix.de, mohsin.bashr@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 0/3] net: ethtool: Track TX pause storm
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2026 11:31:01 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a1f5c278-99ee-4e99-a6f2-3a50db4ae216@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260123104031.16d914e4@kernel.org>


> Eh, did you get AI to help write the full version? :) So much text :)
> 
>> - Does the 500ms hardware timer reset on "flapping" pause signals? If so,
>>    a stuttering storm might still crash the link partner (tx watchdog
>>    timeout).
> 
> Yes any discontinuity resets AFAIU, Mohsin keep me honest.
> 

Correct, stuttering resets the timer. A pause storm is only detected 
when we remain continuously in the PAUSE state for more than 500ms.

>> - If main case where we will run in to tx pause storm is OS crash, what
>>    instance will be able to read this stats? Are they preserved on reboot
>>    or kexec?
> 
> Good question! I was wondering the same thing. In the end I couldn't
> figure out which behavior would be less confusing. We want to make sure
> that the stat never increments on a live system, if the machines come
> out of boot with non-zero value some alerting system could fire.
> OTOH as you say we may want to know that it did happen while machine
> was out. So IDK. The fbnic implementation starts with 0.

Right, a non-zero stat would enable monitoring and alerting systems to 
detect anomalies.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-23 19:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-22 19:21 [PATCH net-next 0/3] net: ethtool: Track TX pause storm Mohsin Bashir
2026-01-22 19:21 ` [PATCH net-next 1/3] net: ethtool: Track pause storm events Mohsin Bashir
2026-01-23 21:27   ` Oleksij Rempel
2026-01-23 22:15     ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-24  9:28       ` Oleksij Rempel
2026-01-22 19:21 ` [PATCH net-next 2/3] eth: fbnic: Add protection against pause storm Mohsin Bashir
2026-01-22 19:21 ` [PATCH net-next 3/3] eth: fbnic: Fetch TX pause storm stats Mohsin Bashir
2026-01-23  9:34 ` [PATCH net-next 0/3] net: ethtool: Track TX pause storm Oleksij Rempel
2026-01-23 11:28   ` Oleksij Rempel
2026-01-23 18:40     ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-23 19:31       ` Mohsin Bashir [this message]
2026-01-23 21:04       ` Oleksij Rempel
2026-01-23 22:21         ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-25  9:59       ` Gal Pressman
2026-01-25 22:30         ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-26  6:51           ` Gal Pressman
2026-01-23 19:36 ` Florian Fainelli
2026-01-23 20:05   ` Jakub Kicinski

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