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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 2/5] virtio-net: transmit napi
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 16:39:03 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a23e1f04-7f2a-9b9f-3d8d-8d5d2fb8e18d@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170424194015-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>



On 2017年04月25日 00:40, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 10:50:12AM -0400, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
>>>>> Maybe I was wrong, but according to Michael's comment it looks like he
>>>>> want
>>>>> check affinity_hint_set just for speculative tx polling on rx napi
>>>>> instead
>>>>> of disabling it at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> And I'm not convinced this is really needed, driver only provide affinity
>>>>> hint instead of affinity, so it's not guaranteed that tx and rx interrupt
>>>>> are in the same vcpus.
>>>> You're right. I made the restriction broader than the request, to really
>>>> err
>>>> on the side of caution for the initial merge of napi tx. And enabling
>>>> the optimization is always a win over keeping it off, even without irq
>>>> affinity.
>>>>
>>>> The cycle cost is significant without affinity regardless of whether the
>>>> optimization is used.
>>>
>>> Yes, I noticed this in the past too.
>>>
>>>> Though this is not limited to napi-tx, it is more
>>>> pronounced in that mode than without napi.
>>>>
>>>> 1x TCP_RR for affinity configuration {process, rx_irq, tx_irq}:
>>>>
>>>> upstream:
>>>>
>>>> 1,1,1: 28985 Mbps, 278 Gcyc
>>>> 1,0,2: 30067 Mbps, 402 Gcyc
>>>>
>>>> napi tx:
>>>>
>>>> 1,1,1: 34492 Mbps, 269 Gcyc
>>>> 1,0,2: 36527 Mbps, 537 Gcyc (!)
>>>> 1,0,1: 36269 Mbps, 394 Gcyc
>>>> 1,0,0: 34674 Mbps, 402 Gcyc
>>>>
>>>> This is a particularly strong example. It is also representative
>>>> of most RR tests. It is less pronounced in other streaming tests.
>>>> 10x TCP_RR, for instance:
>>>>
>>>> upstream:
>>>>
>>>> 1,1,1: 42267 Mbps, 301 Gcyc
>>>> 1,0,2: 40663 Mbps, 445 Gcyc
>>>>
>>>> napi tx:
>>>>
>>>> 1,1,1: 42420 Mbps, 303 Gcyc
>>>> 1,0,2:  42267 Mbps, 431 Gcyc
>>>>
>>>> These numbers were obtained with the virtqueue_enable_cb_delayed
>>>> optimization after xmit_skb, btw. It turns out that moving that before
>>>> increases 1x TCP_RR further to ~39 Gbps, at the cost of reducing
>>>> 100x TCP_RR a bit.
>>>
>>> I see, so I think we can leave the affinity hint optimization/check for
>>> future investigation:
>>>
>>> - to avoid endless optimization (e.g we may want to share a single
>>> vector/napi for tx/rx queue pairs in the future) for this series.
>>> - tx napi is disabled by default which means we can do optimization on top.
>> Okay. I'll drop the vi->affinity_hint_set from the patch set for now.
> I kind of like it, let's be conservative. But I'd prefer a comment
> near it explaining why it's there.
>

Another issue for affinity_hint_set is that it could be changed when 
setting channels. I think we've already conservative enough (e.g it was 
disabled by default).

Thanks

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-04-25  8:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-18 20:21 [PATCH net-next v2 0/5] virtio-net tx napi Willem de Bruijn
2017-04-18 20:21 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/5] virtio-net: napi helper functions Willem de Bruijn
2017-04-18 20:21 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/5] virtio-net: transmit napi Willem de Bruijn
2017-04-20  6:12   ` Jason Wang
2017-04-20 16:02     ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-04-21 18:10       ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-04-20  6:27   ` Jason Wang
2017-04-20 13:58     ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-04-21  3:53       ` Jason Wang
2017-04-21 14:50         ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-04-24 16:40           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-04-24 17:05             ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-04-24 17:14               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-04-24 17:51                 ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-04-25  8:39             ` Jason Wang [this message]
2017-04-18 20:21 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/5] virtio-net: move free_old_xmit_skbs Willem de Bruijn
2017-04-18 20:21 ` [PATCH net-next v2 4/5] virtio-net: clean tx descriptors from rx napi Willem de Bruijn
2017-04-18 20:21 ` [PATCH net-next v2 5/5] virtio-net: keep tx interrupts disabled unless kick Willem de Bruijn
2017-04-20  6:17   ` Jason Wang
2017-04-20 14:03     ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-04-21 23:13       ` Willem de Bruijn

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