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Peter Anvin" , Josh Poimboeuf , David Kaplan , Sean Christopherson , Borislav Petkov , Dave Hansen , Peter Zijlstra , Alexei Starovoitov , Daniel Borkmann , Andrii Nakryiko , KP Singh , Jiri Olsa , "David S. 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Let me make sure I get this right. The desire is to: 1. Have hypervisors lie to guests about the CPU they are running on (for the benefit of large/diverse migration pools) 2. Have guests be allowed to boot with BHI_DIS_S for performance 3. Have apps in those guests that care about security to opt back in to BHI_DIS_S for themselves?