From: Taehee Yoo <ap420073@gmail.com>
To: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, kuba@kernel.org, pabeni@redhat.com,
edumazet@google.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
syzbot+9bbbacfbf1e04d5221f7@syzkaller.appspotmail.com,
syzbot+1c71587a1a09de7fbde3@syzkaller.appspotmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net v2] net: team: get rid of team->lock in team module
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2023 10:16:26 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a8aac295-6021-f13b-fd26-311462d0a930@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZQXcOmtm1l36nUwV@nanopsycho>
On 2023. 9. 17. 오전 1:47, Jiri Pirko wrote:
Hi Jiri,
Thank you so much for your review!
> Sat, Sep 16, 2023 at 03:11:15PM CEST, ap420073@gmail.com wrote:
>> The purpose of team->lock is to protect the private data of the team
>> interface. But RTNL already protects it all well.
>> The precise purpose of the team->lock is to reduce contention of
>> RTNL due to GENL operations such as getting the team port list, and
>> configuration dump.
>>
>> team interface has used a dynamic lockdep key to avoid false-positive
>> lockdep deadlock detection. Virtual interfaces such as team usually
>> have their own lock for protecting private data.
>> These interfaces can be nested.
>> team0
>> |
>> team1
>>
>> Each interface's lock is actually different(team0->lock and
team1->lock).
>> So,
>> mutex_lock(&team0->lock);
>> mutex_lock(&team1->lock);
>> mutex_unlock(&team1->lock);
>> mutex_unlock(&team0->lock);
>> The above case is absolutely safe. But lockdep warns about deadlock.
>> Because the lockdep understands these two locks are same. This is a
>> false-positive lockdep warning.
>>
>> So, in order to avoid this problem, the team interfaces started to use
>> dynamic lockdep key. The false-positive problem was fixed, but it
>> introduced a new problem.
>>
>> When the new team virtual interface is created, it registers a dynamic
>> lockdep key(creates dynamic lockdep key) and uses it. But there is the
>> limitation of the number of lockdep keys.
>> So, If so many team interfaces are created, it consumes all lockdep
keys.
>> Then, the lockdep stops to work and warns about it.
>
> What about fixing the lockdep instead? I bet this is not the only
> occurence of this problem.
There were many similar patches for fixing lockdep false-positive problem.
But, I didn't consider fixing lockdep because I thought the limitation
of lockdep key was normal.
So, I still think stopping working due to exceeding lockdep keys is not
a problem of the lockdep itself.
>
>
>>
>> So, in order to fix this issue, It just removes team->lock and uses
>> RTNL instead.
>>
>> The previous approach to fix this issue was to use the subclass lockdep
>> key instead of the dynamic lockdep key. It requires RTNL before
acquiring
>> a nested lock because the subclass variable(dev->nested_lock) is
>> protected by RTNL.
>> However, the coverage of team->lock is too wide so sometimes it should
>> use a subclass variable before initialization.
>> So, it can't work well in the port initialization and unregister logic.
>>
>> This approach is just removing the team->lock clearly.
>> So there is no special locking scenario in the team module.
>> Also, It may convert RTNL to RCU for the read-most operations such as
>> GENL dump but not yet adopted.
>>
>> Reproducer:
>> for i in {0..1000}
>> do
>> ip link add team$i type team
>> ip link add dummy$i master team$i type dummy
>> ip link set dummy$i up
>> ip link set team$i up
>> done
>>
Thanks a lot!
Taehee Yoo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-09-18 1:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-09-16 13:11 [PATCH net v2] net: team: get rid of team->lock in team module Taehee Yoo
2023-09-16 16:47 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-09-18 1:16 ` Taehee Yoo [this message]
2023-09-18 7:19 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-09-18 7:42 ` Taehee Yoo
2023-09-19 7:40 ` Paolo Abeni
2023-09-19 10:32 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-09-19 10:41 ` Paolo Abeni
2023-10-04 13:52 ` Jakub Kicinski
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