From: "Samudrala, Sridhar" <sridhar.samudrala@intel.com>
To: Siwei Liu <loseweigh@gmail.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, "Brandeburg,
Jesse" <jesse.brandeburg@intel.com>,
Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@intel.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <kubakici@wp.pl>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH net-next v2 2/2] virtio_net: Extend virtio to use VF datapath when available
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 13:05:15 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a8dca7bc-75c8-e21e-a40e-f09d7b47c523@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADGSJ22BsdB-hDb0xebSyWrwDuBJaFACjb26PDoqAd2Ah+tsQg@mail.gmail.com>
On 1/22/2018 12:27 PM, Siwei Liu wrote:
> First off, as mentioned in another thread, the model of stacking up
> virt-bond functionality over virtio seems a wrong direction to me.
> Essentially the migration process would need to carry over all guest
> side configurations previously done on the VF/PT and get them moved to
> the new device being it virtio or VF/PT. Without the help of a new
> upper layer bond driver that enslaves virtio and VF/PT devices
> underneath, virtio will be overloaded with too much specifics being a
> VF/PT backup in the future. I hope you're already aware of the issue
> in longer term and move to that model as soon as possible. See more
> inline.
The idea behind this design is to provide a low latency datapath to
virtio_net while
preserving live migration feature without the need for the guest admin
to configure
a bond between VF and virtio_net.
As this feature is enabled and configured via virtio_net which has a
back channel to
the hypervisor, adding this functionality to virtio_net looks like a
reasonable option.
Adding a new driver and a new device requires defining a new interface
and a channel
between the hypervisor and the VM and if required we may implement that in
future.
>
> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 9:58 PM, Sridhar Samudrala
> <sridhar.samudrala@intel.com> wrote:
>> This patch enables virtio_net to switch over to a VF datapath when a VF
>> netdev is present with the same MAC address. The VF datapath is only used
>> for unicast traffic. Broadcasts/multicasts go via virtio datapath so that
>> east-west broadcasts don't use the PCI bandwidth.
> Why not making an this an option/optimization rather than being the
> only means? The problem of east-west broadcast eating PCI bandwidth
> depends on specifics of the (virtual) network setup, while some users
> won't want to lose VF's merits such as latency. Why restricting
> broadcast/multicast xmit to virtio only which potentially regresses
> the performance against raw VF?
I am planning to remove this option when i resubmit the patches.
>
>> It allows live migration
>> of a VM with a direct attached VF without the need to setup a bond/team
>> between a VF and virtio net device in the guest.
>>
>> The hypervisor needs to unplug the VF device from the guest on the source
>> host and reset the MAC filter of the VF to initiate failover of datapath to
>> virtio before starting the migration. After the migration is completed, the
>> destination hypervisor sets the MAC filter on the VF and plugs it back to
>> the guest to switch over to VF datapath.
> Is there a host side patch (planned) for this MAC filter switching
> process? As said in another thread, that simple script won't work for
> macvtap backend.
The host side patch to enable qemu to configure this feature is included
in this patch
series.
I have been testing this feature using a shell script, but i hope
someone in the libvirt
community will extend 'virsh' to handle live migration when this
feature is supported.
Thanks
Sridhar
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-01-22 21:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-01-12 5:58 [RFC PATCH net-next v2 0/2] Enable virtio to act as a backup for a passthru device Sridhar Samudrala
2018-01-12 5:58 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v2 1/2] virtio_net: Introduce VIRTIO_NET_F_BACKUP feature bit Sridhar Samudrala
2018-01-17 18:15 ` Alexander Duyck
2018-01-17 19:02 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-01-17 19:25 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-01-17 19:57 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-01-17 21:49 ` Alexander Duyck
2018-01-22 21:31 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-01-22 23:27 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-01-23 0:02 ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-01-23 1:37 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-01-23 0:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-01-23 0:16 ` Jakub Kicinski
2018-01-23 0:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-01-23 1:13 ` Jakub Kicinski
2018-01-23 1:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-01-23 19:21 ` Jakub Kicinski
2018-01-23 1:34 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-01-23 2:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-01-23 3:36 ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Duyck
2018-01-23 5:54 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-01-23 23:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-01-12 5:58 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v2 2/2] virtio_net: Extend virtio to use VF datapath when available Sridhar Samudrala
2018-01-22 20:27 ` Siwei Liu
2018-01-22 21:05 ` Samudrala, Sridhar [this message]
2018-01-23 19:53 ` Laine Stump
2018-01-22 21:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-01-23 20:24 ` Siwei Liu
2018-01-23 22:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-01-26 8:14 ` Siwei Liu
2018-01-26 16:51 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-01-26 21:46 ` Siwei Liu
2018-01-26 22:14 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-01-26 22:47 ` Jakub Kicinski
2018-01-26 23:30 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-01-27 2:30 ` Jakub Kicinski
2018-01-27 5:33 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-01-27 5:58 ` Jakub Kicinski
2018-01-28 17:35 ` Alexander Duyck
2018-01-28 19:18 ` [virtio-dev] " Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-01-28 20:18 ` Alexander Duyck
2018-01-28 21:01 ` [virtio-dev] " Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-01-29 0:58 ` Alexander Duyck
2018-01-28 23:02 ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-01-29 4:26 ` Alexander Duyck
2018-01-29 18:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-01-29 20:09 ` Alexander Duyck
2018-01-23 10:33 ` Jason Wang
2018-01-23 16:03 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-01-29 3:32 ` Jason Wang
2018-01-26 16:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-01-26 18:15 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-01-12 5:58 ` [RFC PATCH 1/1] qemu: Introduce VIRTIO_NET_F_BACKUP feature bit to virtio_net Sridhar Samudrala
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