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From: John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>
To: "Björn Töpel" <bjorn.topel@gmail.com>,
	"Karlsson, Magnus" <magnus.karlsson@intel.com>,
	"Duyck, Alexander H" <alexander.h.duyck@intel.com>,
	"Alexander Duyck" <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>,
	"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@fb.com>,
	"Jesper Dangaard Brouer" <brouer@redhat.com>,
	michael.lundkvist@ericsson.com, ravineet.singh@ericsson.com,
	"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Willem de Bruijn" <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>,
	"Tushar Dave" <tushar.n.dave@oracle.com>,
	eric.dumazet@gmail.com
Cc: "Björn Töpel" <bjorn.topel@intel.com>,
	jesse.brandeburg@intel.com, anjali.singhai@intel.com,
	rami.rosen@intel.com, jeffrey.b.shaw@intel.com,
	ferruh.yigit@intel.com, qi.z.zhang@intel.com,
	davem@davemloft.net, "Andy Gospodarek" <andy@greyhouse.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/14] Introducing AF_PACKET V4 support
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 06:34:26 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a9f1d769-5dcb-f43a-6989-235d0c4a857d@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ+HfNjf9kZJUnD96gOhPgHKW9rGdtFfn9MFpmjaQ32JpR2MQQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/13/2017 05:07 AM, Björn Töpel wrote:
> 2017-10-31 13:41 GMT+01:00 Björn Töpel <bjorn.topel@gmail.com>:
>> From: Björn Töpel <bjorn.topel@intel.com>
>>
> [...]
>>
>> We'll do a presentation on AF_PACKET V4 in NetDev 2.2 [1] Seoul,
>> Korea, and our paper with complete benchmarks will be released shortly
>> on the NetDev 2.2 site.
>>
> 
> We're back in the saddle after an excellent netdevconf week. Kudos to
> the organizers; We had a blast! Thanks for all the constructive
> feedback.
> 
> I'll summarize the major points, that we'll address in the next RFC
> below.
> 
> * Instead of extending AF_PACKET with yet another version, introduce a
>   new address/packet family. As for naming had some name suggestions:
>   AF_CAPTURE, AF_CHANNEL, AF_XDP and AF_ZEROCOPY. We'll go for
>   AF_ZEROCOPY, unless there're no strong opinions against it.
> 

Works for me.

> * No explicit zerocopy enablement. Use the zeropcopy path if
>   supported, if not -- fallback to the skb path, for netdevs that
>   don't support the required ndos. Further, we'll have the zerocopy
>   behavior for the skb path as well, meaning that an AF_ZEROCOPY
>   socket will consume the skb and we'll honor skb->queue_mapping,
>   meaning that we only consume the packets for the enabled queue.
> 
> * Limit the scope of the first patchset to Rx only, and introduce Tx
>   in a separate patchset.
> 
> * Minimize the size of the i40e zerocopy patches, by moving the driver
>   specific code to separate patches.
> 
> * Do not introduce a new XDP action XDP_PASS_TO_KERNEL, instead use
>   XDP redirect map call with ingress flag.
> 

Sounds good we will need to add this as a separate patch series though.

> * Extend the XDP redirect to support explicit allocator/destructor
>   functions. Right now, XDP redirect assumes that the page allocator
>   was used, and the XDP redirect cleanup path is decreasing the page
>   count of the XDP buffer. This assumption breaks for the zerocopy
>   case.
> 

Probably sync with Andy and Jesper on this. I think they are both
looking into something similar.

Thanks,
John

> 
> Björn
> 
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-13 14:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-31 12:41 [RFC PATCH 00/14] Introducing AF_PACKET V4 support Björn Töpel
2017-10-31 12:41 ` [RFC PATCH 01/14] packet: introduce AF_PACKET V4 userspace API Björn Töpel
2017-11-02  1:45   ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-11-02 10:06     ` Björn Töpel
2017-11-02 16:40       ` Tushar Dave
2017-11-02 16:47         ` Björn Töpel
2017-11-03  2:29       ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-11-03  9:54         ` Björn Töpel
2017-11-15 22:21           ` chet l
2017-11-16 16:53             ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-11-17  3:32               ` chetan L
2017-11-15 22:34   ` chet l
2017-11-16  1:44     ` David Miller
2017-11-16 19:32       ` chetan L
2017-10-31 12:41 ` [RFC PATCH 02/14] packet: implement PACKET_MEMREG setsockopt Björn Töpel
2017-11-03  3:00   ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-11-03  9:57     ` Björn Töpel
2017-10-31 12:41 ` [RFC PATCH 03/14] packet: enable AF_PACKET V4 rings Björn Töpel
2017-11-03  4:16   ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-11-03 10:02     ` Björn Töpel
2017-10-31 12:41 ` [RFC PATCH 04/14] packet: enable Rx for AF_PACKET V4 Björn Töpel
2017-10-31 12:41 ` [RFC PATCH 05/14] packet: enable Tx support " Björn Töpel
2017-10-31 12:41 ` [RFC PATCH 06/14] netdevice: add AF_PACKET V4 zerocopy ops Björn Töpel
2017-10-31 12:41 ` [RFC PATCH 07/14] packet: wire up zerocopy for AF_PACKET V4 Björn Töpel
2017-11-03  3:17   ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-11-03 10:47     ` Björn Töpel
2017-10-31 12:41 ` [RFC PATCH 08/14] i40e: AF_PACKET V4 ndo_tp4_zerocopy Rx support Björn Töpel
2017-10-31 12:41 ` [RFC PATCH 09/14] i40e: AF_PACKET V4 ndo_tp4_zerocopy Tx support Björn Töpel
2017-10-31 12:41 ` [RFC PATCH 10/14] samples/tpacket4: added tpbench Björn Töpel
2017-10-31 12:41 ` [RFC PATCH 11/14] veth: added support for PACKET_ZEROCOPY Björn Töpel
2017-10-31 12:41 ` [RFC PATCH 12/14] samples/tpacket4: added veth support Björn Töpel
2017-10-31 12:41 ` [RFC PATCH 13/14] i40e: added XDP support for TP4 enabled queue pairs Björn Töpel
2017-10-31 12:41 ` [RFC PATCH 14/14] xdp: introducing XDP_PASS_TO_KERNEL for PACKET_ZEROCOPY use Björn Töpel
2017-11-03  4:34 ` [RFC PATCH 00/14] Introducing AF_PACKET V4 support Willem de Bruijn
2017-11-03 10:13   ` Karlsson, Magnus
2017-11-03 13:55     ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-11-13 13:07 ` Björn Töpel
2017-11-13 14:34   ` John Fastabend [this message]
2017-11-13 23:50   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-11-14  5:33     ` Björn Töpel
2017-11-14  7:02       ` John Fastabend
2017-11-14 12:20         ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-11-16  2:55           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-11-16  3:35             ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-11-16  7:09               ` Björn Töpel
2017-11-16  8:26                 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-11-14 17:19   ` [RFC PATCH 00/14] Introducing AF_PACKET V4 support (AF_XDP or AF_CHANNEL?) Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-11-14 19:01     ` Björn Töpel
2017-11-16  8:00       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer

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