From: John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>
To: "Björn Töpel" <bjorn.topel@gmail.com>,
"Karlsson, Magnus" <magnus.karlsson@intel.com>,
"Duyck, Alexander H" <alexander.h.duyck@intel.com>,
"Alexander Duyck" <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>,
"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@fb.com>,
"Jesper Dangaard Brouer" <brouer@redhat.com>,
michael.lundkvist@ericsson.com, ravineet.singh@ericsson.com,
"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
"Willem de Bruijn" <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>,
"Tushar Dave" <tushar.n.dave@oracle.com>,
eric.dumazet@gmail.com
Cc: "Björn Töpel" <bjorn.topel@intel.com>,
jesse.brandeburg@intel.com, anjali.singhai@intel.com,
rami.rosen@intel.com, jeffrey.b.shaw@intel.com,
ferruh.yigit@intel.com, qi.z.zhang@intel.com,
davem@davemloft.net, "Andy Gospodarek" <andy@greyhouse.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/14] Introducing AF_PACKET V4 support
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 06:34:26 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a9f1d769-5dcb-f43a-6989-235d0c4a857d@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ+HfNjf9kZJUnD96gOhPgHKW9rGdtFfn9MFpmjaQ32JpR2MQQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 11/13/2017 05:07 AM, Björn Töpel wrote:
> 2017-10-31 13:41 GMT+01:00 Björn Töpel <bjorn.topel@gmail.com>:
>> From: Björn Töpel <bjorn.topel@intel.com>
>>
> [...]
>>
>> We'll do a presentation on AF_PACKET V4 in NetDev 2.2 [1] Seoul,
>> Korea, and our paper with complete benchmarks will be released shortly
>> on the NetDev 2.2 site.
>>
>
> We're back in the saddle after an excellent netdevconf week. Kudos to
> the organizers; We had a blast! Thanks for all the constructive
> feedback.
>
> I'll summarize the major points, that we'll address in the next RFC
> below.
>
> * Instead of extending AF_PACKET with yet another version, introduce a
> new address/packet family. As for naming had some name suggestions:
> AF_CAPTURE, AF_CHANNEL, AF_XDP and AF_ZEROCOPY. We'll go for
> AF_ZEROCOPY, unless there're no strong opinions against it.
>
Works for me.
> * No explicit zerocopy enablement. Use the zeropcopy path if
> supported, if not -- fallback to the skb path, for netdevs that
> don't support the required ndos. Further, we'll have the zerocopy
> behavior for the skb path as well, meaning that an AF_ZEROCOPY
> socket will consume the skb and we'll honor skb->queue_mapping,
> meaning that we only consume the packets for the enabled queue.
>
> * Limit the scope of the first patchset to Rx only, and introduce Tx
> in a separate patchset.
>
> * Minimize the size of the i40e zerocopy patches, by moving the driver
> specific code to separate patches.
>
> * Do not introduce a new XDP action XDP_PASS_TO_KERNEL, instead use
> XDP redirect map call with ingress flag.
>
Sounds good we will need to add this as a separate patch series though.
> * Extend the XDP redirect to support explicit allocator/destructor
> functions. Right now, XDP redirect assumes that the page allocator
> was used, and the XDP redirect cleanup path is decreasing the page
> count of the XDP buffer. This assumption breaks for the zerocopy
> case.
>
Probably sync with Andy and Jesper on this. I think they are both
looking into something similar.
Thanks,
John
>
> Björn
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-11-13 14:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-10-31 12:41 [RFC PATCH 00/14] Introducing AF_PACKET V4 support Björn Töpel
2017-10-31 12:41 ` [RFC PATCH 01/14] packet: introduce AF_PACKET V4 userspace API Björn Töpel
2017-11-02 1:45 ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-11-02 10:06 ` Björn Töpel
2017-11-02 16:40 ` Tushar Dave
2017-11-02 16:47 ` Björn Töpel
2017-11-03 2:29 ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-11-03 9:54 ` Björn Töpel
2017-11-15 22:21 ` chet l
2017-11-16 16:53 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-11-17 3:32 ` chetan L
2017-11-15 22:34 ` chet l
2017-11-16 1:44 ` David Miller
2017-11-16 19:32 ` chetan L
2017-10-31 12:41 ` [RFC PATCH 02/14] packet: implement PACKET_MEMREG setsockopt Björn Töpel
2017-11-03 3:00 ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-11-03 9:57 ` Björn Töpel
2017-10-31 12:41 ` [RFC PATCH 03/14] packet: enable AF_PACKET V4 rings Björn Töpel
2017-11-03 4:16 ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-11-03 10:02 ` Björn Töpel
2017-10-31 12:41 ` [RFC PATCH 04/14] packet: enable Rx for AF_PACKET V4 Björn Töpel
2017-10-31 12:41 ` [RFC PATCH 05/14] packet: enable Tx support " Björn Töpel
2017-10-31 12:41 ` [RFC PATCH 06/14] netdevice: add AF_PACKET V4 zerocopy ops Björn Töpel
2017-10-31 12:41 ` [RFC PATCH 07/14] packet: wire up zerocopy for AF_PACKET V4 Björn Töpel
2017-11-03 3:17 ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-11-03 10:47 ` Björn Töpel
2017-10-31 12:41 ` [RFC PATCH 08/14] i40e: AF_PACKET V4 ndo_tp4_zerocopy Rx support Björn Töpel
2017-10-31 12:41 ` [RFC PATCH 09/14] i40e: AF_PACKET V4 ndo_tp4_zerocopy Tx support Björn Töpel
2017-10-31 12:41 ` [RFC PATCH 10/14] samples/tpacket4: added tpbench Björn Töpel
2017-10-31 12:41 ` [RFC PATCH 11/14] veth: added support for PACKET_ZEROCOPY Björn Töpel
2017-10-31 12:41 ` [RFC PATCH 12/14] samples/tpacket4: added veth support Björn Töpel
2017-10-31 12:41 ` [RFC PATCH 13/14] i40e: added XDP support for TP4 enabled queue pairs Björn Töpel
2017-10-31 12:41 ` [RFC PATCH 14/14] xdp: introducing XDP_PASS_TO_KERNEL for PACKET_ZEROCOPY use Björn Töpel
2017-11-03 4:34 ` [RFC PATCH 00/14] Introducing AF_PACKET V4 support Willem de Bruijn
2017-11-03 10:13 ` Karlsson, Magnus
2017-11-03 13:55 ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-11-13 13:07 ` Björn Töpel
2017-11-13 14:34 ` John Fastabend [this message]
2017-11-13 23:50 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-11-14 5:33 ` Björn Töpel
2017-11-14 7:02 ` John Fastabend
2017-11-14 12:20 ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-11-16 2:55 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-11-16 3:35 ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-11-16 7:09 ` Björn Töpel
2017-11-16 8:26 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-11-14 17:19 ` [RFC PATCH 00/14] Introducing AF_PACKET V4 support (AF_XDP or AF_CHANNEL?) Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-11-14 19:01 ` Björn Töpel
2017-11-16 8:00 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
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