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From: Joe Damato <jdamato@fastly.com>
To: Samiullah Khawaja <skhawaja@google.com>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	almasrymina@google.com, willemb@google.com,
	mkarsten@uwaterloo.ca, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v6] Add support to set napi threaded for individual napi
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2025 11:11:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aBJntw1WwxxFJ9e2@LQ3V64L9R2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAywjhQVdYuc3NuLYNMgf90Ng_zjhFyTQRWLnPR7Mk-2MWQ2JA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 30, 2025 at 10:54:16AM -0700, Samiullah Khawaja wrote:

> Also please note the discussion on stopping the thread I shared earlier:
> https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/CAKgT0UdjWGBrv9wOUyOxon5Sn7qSBHL5-KfByPS4uB1_TJ3WiQ@mail.gmail.com/

In the thread you linked, you'll see that Jakub said this should probably be
fixed in the future:

  Can we put a note in the commit message saying that stopping the
  threads is slightly tricky but we'll do it if someone complains?

So, this suggests, again, that this need to be fixed and Jakub
already addressed how things have changed which would make this
easier in [3]:

  > We should check the discussions we had when threaded NAPI was added.
  > I feel nothing was exposed in terms of observability so leaving the
  > thread running didn't seem all that bad back then. Stopping the NAPI
  > polling safely is not entirely trivial, we'd need to somehow grab
  > the SCHED bit like busy polling does, and then re-schedule.
  > Or have the thread figure out that it's done and exit.
  
  Actually, we ended up adding the explicit ownership bits so it may not
  be all that hard any more.. Worth trying.

So based on all of the messages in the v5 and in the past, it seems pretty
clear to me that this needs to be fixed.

[3]: https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20250425201220.58bf25d7@kernel.org/ 

  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-30 18:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-29 22:26 [PATCH net-next v6] Add support to set napi threaded for individual napi Samiullah Khawaja
2025-04-29 23:57 ` Joe Damato
2025-04-30  1:16   ` Samiullah Khawaja
2025-04-30 16:53     ` Joe Damato
2025-04-30 17:54       ` Samiullah Khawaja
2025-04-30 18:11         ` Joe Damato [this message]
2025-05-03  2:15           ` Jakub Kicinski

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