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From: Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>
To: Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>
Cc: William Liu <will@willsroot.io>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, victor@mojatatu.com,
	pctammela@mojatatu.com, pabeni@redhat.com, kuba@kernel.org,
	stephen@networkplumber.org, dcaratti@redhat.com,
	savy@syst3mfailure.io, jiri@resnulli.us, davem@davemloft.net,
	edumazet@google.com, horms@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net v4 1/2] net/sched: Restrict conditions for adding duplicating netems to qdisc tree
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2025 13:16:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aGGfLB+vlSELiEu3@pop-os.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM0EoMkUi470+z86ztEMAGfYcG8aYiC2e5pP0z1BHz82O4RCPg@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jun 28, 2025 at 05:25:25PM -0400, Jamal Hadi Salim wrote:
> your approach was to overwrite the netem specific cb which is exposed
> via the cb ->data that can be overwritten for example by a trivial
> ebpf program attach to any level of the hierarchy. This specific
> variant from Cong is not accessible to ebpf but as i expressed my view
> in other email i feel it is not a good solution.
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/CAM0EoMk4dxOFoN_=3yOy+XrtU=yvjJXAw3fVTmN9=M=R=vtbxA@mail.gmail.com/

Hi Jamal,

I have two concerns regarding your/Will's proposal:

1) I am not sure whether disallowing such case is safe. From my
understanding this case is not obviously or logically wrong. So if we
disallow it, we may have a chance to break some application.

2) Singling out this case looks not elegant to me. Even _if_ we really
want to disallow such case, we still need to find a better and more
elegant way to do so, for example, adding a new ops for netem and calling
it in sch_api.c. Something like below:

// Implement netem_avoid_duplicate()
// ...

static struct Qdisc_ops netem_qdisc_ops __read_mostly = {
  .avoid_duplicate = netem_avoid_duplicate,
};

// In sch_api.c
// traverse the Qdisch hierarch and call ->avoid_duplicate()

What do you think?

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-29 20:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-27  6:17 [PATCH net v4 1/2] net/sched: Restrict conditions for adding duplicating netems to qdisc tree William Liu
2025-06-28  0:15 ` Cong Wang
2025-06-28  4:23   ` William Liu
2025-06-28 21:25     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2025-06-29 20:16       ` Cong Wang [this message]
2025-06-30 11:32         ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2025-06-30 22:39           ` Cong Wang
2025-07-01 13:36             ` Paolo Abeni
2025-07-01 14:15             ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2025-07-01 17:31               ` Cong Wang
2025-07-01 17:37                 ` William Liu
2025-07-01 19:08                 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2025-06-28 15:15   ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-06-28 21:15     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2025-07-01 18:11     ` Eric Dumazet
2025-07-01 18:46       ` William Liu

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