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From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] net: phy: fix phy_uses_state_machine()
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2025 10:09:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aLVivd71G4P4pU0U@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250901084225.pmkcmn3xa7fngxvp@skbuf>

On Mon, Sep 01, 2025 at 11:42:25AM +0300, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 31, 2025 at 05:38:11PM +0100, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> > phydev->phy_link_change is initialised by phy_attach_direct(), and
> > overridden by phylink. This means that a never-connected PHY will
> > have phydev->phy_link_change set to NULL, which causes
> > phy_uses_state_machine() to return true. This is incorrect.
> 
> Another nitpick regarding phrasing here: the never-connected PHY doesn't
> _cause_ phy_uses_state_machine() to return true. It returns true _in
> spite_ of the PHY never being connected: the non-NULL quality of
> phydev->phy_link_change is not something that phy_uses_state_machine()
> tests for.

No. What I'm saying is that if phydev->phy_link_change is set to NULL,
_this_ causes phy_uses_state_machine() to return true and that
behaviour incorrect.

The first part is describing _when_ phydev->phy_link_change is set to
NULL.

It is not saying that a never-connected PHY directly causes
phy_uses_state_machine() to return true.

I think my phrasing of this is totally fine, even re-reading it now.

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-01  9:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-31 16:38 [PATCH net] net: phy: fix phy_uses_state_machine() Russell King (Oracle)
2025-09-01  8:09 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-09-01  8:42 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-09-01  9:09   ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2025-09-01  9:35     ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-09-01 10:05       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-09-01 10:36         ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-09-01 14:14           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-09-01 14:25             ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-09-01  9:34 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-09-01  9:39   ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-09-01 10:23     ` Russell King (Oracle)
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2025-09-07 20:44 Russell King (Oracle)
2025-09-08 13:37 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-09-09 23:50 ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf

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