From: Saeed Mahameed <saeed@kernel.org>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, Tariq Toukan <tariqt@nvidia.com>,
Gal Pressman <gal@nvidia.com>,
Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>, Jiri Pirko <jiri@nvidia.com>,
Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next V6 09/13] devlink: Add 'keep_link_up' generic devlink device param
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2025 12:02:21 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aLc_PWj1OKkjrZ0e@x130> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250828153845.4928772b@kernel.org>
On 28 Aug 15:38, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
>On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 13:09:50 -0700 Saeed Mahameed wrote:
>> >> I don't see anything missing in the definition of this parameter
>> >> 'keep_link_up' it is pretty much self-explanatory, for legacy reasons the
>> >> netdev controls the underlying physical link state. But this is not
>> >> true anymore for complex setups (multi-host, DPU, etc..).
>> >
>> >The policy can be more complex than "keep_link_up"
>> >Look around the tree and search the ML archives please.
>>
>> Sorry for replying late, had to work on other stuff and was waiting
>> internally for a question I had to ask about this, only recently got the
>> answer.
>>
>> I get your point, but I am not trying to implement any link policy
>> or eth link specification tunables. For me and maybe other vendors
>> this knob makes sense, and Important for the usecase I described.
>
>I think I was alluding to making the link stay up dependent on presence
>of BMC / management engine and or some NIC-internal agents. So to give
>a trivial example the policy could be:
> - force down
> - leave up if BMC present
> - force up
>I don't recall prior discussions TBH so doing more research will be
>necessary..
Sounds good will drop this patch and re-post. Will suggest the policy to
our Arch people to see if FW can adapt.
Thanks,
Saeed.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-02 19:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-09 3:04 [PATCH net-next V6 00/13] devlink, mlx5: Add new parameters for link management and SRIOV/eSwitch configurations Saeed Mahameed
2025-07-09 3:04 ` [PATCH net-next V6 01/13] devlink: Add 'total_vfs' generic device param Saeed Mahameed
2025-07-09 8:36 ` Simon Horman
2025-07-10 2:53 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-07-10 5:38 ` Saeed Mahameed
2025-09-02 21:24 ` Jacob Keller
2025-09-03 21:32 ` Saeed Mahameed
2025-07-09 3:04 ` [PATCH net-next V6 02/13] net/mlx5: Implement cqe_compress_type via devlink params Saeed Mahameed
2025-07-09 8:37 ` Simon Horman
2025-07-09 9:06 ` Subbaraya Sundeep
2025-07-10 5:51 ` Saeed Mahameed
2025-07-11 16:19 ` Subbaraya Sundeep
2025-07-10 2:53 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-07-10 5:44 ` Saeed Mahameed
2025-07-10 22:16 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-07-09 3:04 ` [PATCH net-next V6 03/13] net/mlx5: Implement devlink enable_sriov parameter Saeed Mahameed
2025-07-09 8:37 ` Simon Horman
2025-07-09 3:04 ` [PATCH net-next V6 04/13] net/mlx5: Implement devlink total_vfs parameter Saeed Mahameed
2025-07-09 8:37 ` Simon Horman
2025-07-09 3:04 ` [PATCH net-next V6 05/13] devlink: pass struct devlink_port * as arg to devlink_nl_param_fill() Saeed Mahameed
2025-07-09 8:38 ` Simon Horman
2025-07-09 3:04 ` [PATCH net-next V6 06/13] devlink: Implement port params registration Saeed Mahameed
2025-07-09 8:38 ` Simon Horman
2025-07-09 3:04 ` [PATCH net-next V6 07/13] devlink: Implement get/dump netlink commands for port params Saeed Mahameed
2025-07-09 8:38 ` Simon Horman
2025-07-09 3:04 ` [PATCH net-next V6 08/13] devlink: Implement set netlink command " Saeed Mahameed
2025-07-09 8:40 ` Simon Horman
2025-07-09 3:04 ` [PATCH net-next V6 09/13] devlink: Add 'keep_link_up' generic devlink device param Saeed Mahameed
2025-07-09 8:40 ` Simon Horman
2025-07-10 2:58 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-07-10 6:04 ` Saeed Mahameed
2025-07-10 12:45 ` Jiri Pirko
2025-07-10 22:24 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-08-28 20:09 ` Saeed Mahameed
2025-08-28 22:38 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-09-02 19:02 ` Saeed Mahameed [this message]
2025-09-02 21:57 ` Jacob Keller
2025-09-03 6:45 ` Saeed Mahameed
2025-09-03 19:59 ` Jacob Keller
2025-09-03 21:30 ` Saeed Mahameed
2025-07-09 3:04 ` [PATCH net-next V6 10/13] net/mlx5: Implement devlink keep_link_up port parameter Saeed Mahameed
2025-07-09 8:40 ` Simon Horman
2025-07-09 3:04 ` [PATCH net-next V6 11/13] devlink: Throw extack messages on param value validation error Saeed Mahameed
2025-07-09 8:40 ` Simon Horman
2025-07-09 3:04 ` [PATCH net-next V6 12/13] devlink: Implement devlink param multi attribute nested data values Saeed Mahameed
2025-07-09 8:41 ` Simon Horman
2025-07-09 3:04 ` [PATCH net-next V6 13/13] net/mlx5: Implement eSwitch hairpin per prio buffers devlink params Saeed Mahameed
2025-07-09 8:41 ` Simon Horman
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