From: Sabrina Dubroca <sd@queasysnail.net>
To: Ido Schimmel <idosch@nvidia.com>
Cc: Hangbin Liu <liuhangbin@gmail.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, Jay Vosburgh <jv@jvosburgh.net>,
Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>, Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
Nikolay Aleksandrov <razor@blackwall.org>,
Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@fomichev.me>,
Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@google.com>,
Ahmed Zaki <ahmed.zaki@intel.com>,
Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>,
bridge@lists.linux.dev, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 1/5] net: add a common function to compute features from lowers devices
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2025 16:29:35 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aMGLTzACsKLRIsVb@krikkit> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aLRr1W3jKRDYsRSq@shredder>
2025-08-31, 18:35:49 +0300, Ido Schimmel wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 09:54:26AM +0000, Hangbin Liu wrote:
> > Some high level virtual drivers need to compute features from lower
> > devices. But each has their own implementations and may lost some
> > feature compute. Let's use one common function to compute features
> > for kinds of these devices.
> >
> > The new helper uses the current bond implementation as the reference
> > one, as the latter already handles all the relevant aspects: netdev
> > features, TSO limits and dst retention.
> >
> > Suggested-by: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Hangbin Liu <liuhangbin@gmail.com>
> > ---
> > include/linux/netdevice.h | 19 ++++++++++
> > net/core/dev.c | 79 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > 2 files changed, 98 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/include/linux/netdevice.h b/include/linux/netdevice.h
> > index f3a3b761abfb..42742a47f2c6 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/netdevice.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/netdevice.h
> > @@ -5279,6 +5279,25 @@ int __netdev_update_features(struct net_device *dev);
> > void netdev_update_features(struct net_device *dev);
> > void netdev_change_features(struct net_device *dev);
> >
> > +/* netdevice features */
> > +#define VIRTUAL_DEV_VLAN_FEATURES (NETIF_F_HW_CSUM | NETIF_F_SG | \
> > + NETIF_F_FRAGLIST | NETIF_F_GSO_SOFTWARE | \
> > + NETIF_F_GSO_ENCAP_ALL | \
> > + NETIF_F_HIGHDMA | NETIF_F_LRO)
> > +
> > +#define VIRTUAL_DEV_ENC_FEATURES (NETIF_F_HW_CSUM | NETIF_F_SG | \
> > + NETIF_F_RXCSUM | NETIF_F_GSO_SOFTWARE | \
> > + NETIF_F_GSO_PARTIAL)
> > +
> > +#define VIRTUAL_DEV_MPLS_FEATURES (NETIF_F_HW_CSUM | NETIF_F_SG | \
> > + NETIF_F_GSO_SOFTWARE)
> > +
> > +#define VIRTUAL_DEV_XFRM_FEATURES (NETIF_F_HW_ESP | NETIF_F_HW_ESP_TX_CSUM | \
> > + NETIF_F_GSO_ESP)
> > +
> > +#define VIRTUAL_DEV_GSO_PARTIAL_FEATURES (NETIF_F_GSO_ESP)
> > +void netdev_compute_features_from_lowers(struct net_device *dev);
> > +
> > void netif_stacked_transfer_operstate(const struct net_device *rootdev,
> > struct net_device *dev);
> >
> > diff --git a/net/core/dev.c b/net/core/dev.c
> > index 1d1650d9ecff..fcad2a9f6b65 100644
> > --- a/net/core/dev.c
> > +++ b/net/core/dev.c
> > @@ -12577,6 +12577,85 @@ netdev_features_t netdev_increment_features(netdev_features_t all,
> > }
> > EXPORT_SYMBOL(netdev_increment_features);
> >
> > +/**
> > + * netdev_compute_features_from_lowers - compute feature from lowers
> > + * @dev: the upper device
> > + *
> > + * Recompute the upper device's feature based on all lower devices.
> > + */
> > +void netdev_compute_features_from_lowers(struct net_device *dev)
> > +{
> > + unsigned int dst_release_flag = IFF_XMIT_DST_RELEASE | IFF_XMIT_DST_RELEASE_PERM;
> > + netdev_features_t gso_partial_features = VIRTUAL_DEV_GSO_PARTIAL_FEATURES;
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_XFRM_OFFLOAD
> > + netdev_features_t xfrm_features = VIRTUAL_DEV_XFRM_FEATURES;
> ^ double space (in other places as well)
>
> > +#endif
> > + netdev_features_t mpls_features = VIRTUAL_DEV_MPLS_FEATURES;
> > + netdev_features_t vlan_features = VIRTUAL_DEV_VLAN_FEATURES;
> > + netdev_features_t enc_features = VIRTUAL_DEV_ENC_FEATURES;
> > + unsigned short max_hard_header_len = ETH_HLEN;
Going back to this discussion about hard_header_len:
> hard_header_len is not really a feature, so does not sound like it
> belongs here. I'm pretty sure it's not needed at all.
>
> It was added to the bond driver in 2006 by commit 54ef31371407 ("[PATCH]
> bonding: Handle large hard_header_len") citing panics with gianfar on
> xmit. In 2009 commit 93c1285c5d92 ("gianfar: reallocate skb when
> headroom is not enough for fcb") fixed the gianfar driver to stop
> assuming that it has enough room to push its custom header. Further,
> commit bee9e58c9e98 ("gianfar:don't add FCB length to hard_header_len")
> from 2012 fixed this driver to use needed_headroom instead of
> hard_header_len.
>
> The team driver is also adjusting hard_header_len according to the lower
> devices, but it most likely copied it from the bond driver. On the other
> hand, the bridge driver does not mess with hard_header_len and no
> problems were reported there (that I know of).
>
> Might be a good idea to remove this hard_header_len logic from bond and
> team and instead set their needed_headroom according to the lower device
> with the highest needed_headroom. Paolo added similar logic in bridge
> and ovs but the use case is a bit different there.
I'm not convinced removing adapting hard_header_len on bond/team is
correct, even with old and broken drivers getting fixed years
ago. hard_header_len will be used on the TX path (for some devices
like bridge/macvlan via dev_forward_skb() and similar helpers, for IP
tunnels setting their MTU, and via LL_RESERVED_SPACE).
So I think we should keep setting hard_header_len to the largest of
all lowers.
--
Sabrina
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-10 14:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-29 9:54 [PATCH net-next 0/5] net: common feature compute for upper interface Hangbin Liu
2025-08-29 9:54 ` [PATCH net-next 1/5] net: add a common function to compute features from lowers devices Hangbin Liu
2025-08-31 15:35 ` Ido Schimmel
2025-09-01 9:46 ` Hangbin Liu
2025-09-10 14:29 ` Sabrina Dubroca [this message]
2025-09-10 17:08 ` Ido Schimmel
2025-09-10 17:41 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2025-09-11 12:59 ` Ido Schimmel
2025-09-12 1:08 ` Hangbin Liu
2025-08-29 9:54 ` [PATCH net-next 2/5] bonding: use common function to compute the features Hangbin Liu
2025-08-29 9:54 ` [PATCH net-next 3/5] team: " Hangbin Liu
2025-09-02 16:22 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2025-08-29 9:54 ` [PATCH net-next 4/5] net: bridge: " Hangbin Liu
2025-08-29 9:54 ` [PATCH net-next 5/5] selftests/net: add offload checking test for virtual interface Hangbin Liu
2025-08-31 15:52 ` Ido Schimmel
2025-09-01 9:29 ` Hangbin Liu
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