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From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: "Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Marek Szyprowski" <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	"Oleksij Rempel" <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>,
	"Andrew Lunn" <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Hubert Wiśniewski" <hubert.wisniewski.25632@gmail.com>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org, kernel@pengutronix.de,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	"Lukas Wunner" <lukas@wunner.de>, "Xu Yang" <xu.yang_2@nxp.com>,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net v1 1/1] net: usb: asix: ax88772: drop phylink use in PM to avoid MDIO runtime PM wakeups
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2025 15:37:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aMQwQAaoSB0Y0-YD@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a25b24ec-67bd-42b7-ac7b-9b8d729faba4@rowland.harvard.edu>

On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 10:29:47AM -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 09:33:05AM +0100, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 11, 2025 at 10:30:09PM -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
> > > The USB subsystem uses only one pair of callbacks for suspend and resume 
> > > because USB hardware has only one suspend state.  However, the callbacks 
> > > do get an extra pm_message_t parameter which they can use to distinguish 
> > > between system sleep transitions and runtime PM transitions.
> > 
> > Unfortunately, this isn't the case. While a struct usb_device_driver's
> > suspend()/resume() methods get the pm_message_t, a struct usb_driver's
> > suspend()/resume() methods do not:
> > 
> > static int usb_resume_interface(struct usb_device *udev,
> >                 struct usb_interface *intf, pm_message_t msg, int reset_resume)
> > {
> >         struct usb_driver       *driver;
> > ...
> >         if (reset_resume) {
> >                 if (driver->reset_resume) {
> >                         status = driver->reset_resume(intf);
> > ...
> >         } else {
> >                 status = driver->resume(intf);
> > 
> > vs
> > 
> > static int usb_resume_device(struct usb_device *udev, pm_message_t msg)
> > {
> >         struct usb_device_driver        *udriver;
> > ...
> >         if (status == 0 && udriver->resume)
> >                 status = udriver->resume(udev, msg);
> > 
> > and in drivers/net/usb/asix_devices.c:
> > 
> > static struct usb_driver asix_driver = {
> > ...
> >         .suspend =      asix_suspend,
> >         .resume =       asix_resume,
> >         .reset_resume = asix_resume,
> > 
> > where asix_resume() only takes one argument:
> > 
> > static int asix_resume(struct usb_interface *intf)
> > {
> 
> Your email made me go back and check the code more carefully, and it 
> turns out that we were both half-right.  :-)
> 
> The pm_message_t argument is passed to the usb_driver's ->suspend 
> callback in usb_suspend_interface(), but not to the ->resume callback in 
> usb_resume_interface().  Yes, it's inconsistent.
> 
> I suppose the API could be changed, at the cost of updating a lot of 
> drivers.  But it would be easier if this wasn't necessary, if there was 
> some way to work around the problem.  Unfortunately, I don't know 
> anything about how the network stack handles suspend and resume, or 
> what sort of locking it requires, so I can't offer any suggestions.

I, too, am unable to help further as I have no bandwidth available
to deal with this. Sorry.

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-12 14:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2025-09-08 11:26 ` [PATCH net v1 1/1] net: usb: asix: ax88772: drop phylink use in PM to avoid MDIO runtime PM wakeups Oleksij Rempel
2025-09-08 17:00   ` Hubert Wiśniewski
2025-09-09  7:17     ` Oleksij Rempel
2025-09-09 23:56       ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-09-10  4:16         ` Oleksij Rempel
2025-09-09  2:05   ` Xu Yang
2025-09-09 23:58   ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-09-10  4:11     ` Oleksij Rempel
2025-09-11  0:50       ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-09-11  1:00   ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf
2025-09-11 13:58   ` Marek Szyprowski
2025-09-11 14:39     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-09-11 14:55       ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-09-11 20:46         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-09-12  2:30           ` Alan Stern
2025-09-12  8:33             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-09-12 14:29               ` Alan Stern
2025-09-12 14:37                 ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2025-09-13  6:45                   ` Oleksij Rempel
2025-09-16  7:18                     ` Oleksij Rempel
2025-09-16 14:42                       ` Jakub Kicinski

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