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From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 14/14] net: stmmac: convert to phylink PCS support
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2025 22:57:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aPAYtHPcF5bes7Xi@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <040a2f29-4c95-4561-87c0-2a70308d3f00@lunn.ch>

On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 11:31:37PM +0200, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > - create stmmac_pcs.c, which contains the phylink_pcs_ops structure, a
> >   dummy .pcs_get_state() method which always reports link-down
> 
> I've not followed the PCS code too closely. Why always report link
> down? Why is a dummy method needed?

If phylink is put into inband mode, and a PCS is supplied to phylink
where this method left NULL, the kernel will oops.

As the code stands today in mainline, if phylink were to be put into
inband mode with the integrated PCS, then there will be no phylink PCS,
and so phylink_mac_pcs_get_state() will fall into the "else" path of:

        pcs = pl->pcs;
        if (pcs)
                pcs->ops->pcs_get_state(pcs, pl->pcs_neg_mode, state);
        else
                state->link = 0;

and force the link down.

So, adding this method keeps the status quo - not oopsing the kernel
and not allowing the link to come up. No unintended behavioural
change in this regard from how it would behave today. :)

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-15 21:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-15 14:19 [PATCH net-next 00/14] net: stmmac: phylink PCS conversion Russell King (Oracle)
2025-10-15 14:20 ` [PATCH net-next 01/14] net: stmmac: remove broken PCS code Russell King (Oracle)
2025-10-15 20:44   ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-15 14:20 ` [PATCH net-next 02/14] net: stmmac: remove xstats.pcs_* members Russell King (Oracle)
2025-10-15 20:45   ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-15 14:20 ` [PATCH net-next 03/14] net: stmmac: remove SGMII/RGMII/SMII interrupt handling Russell King (Oracle)
2025-10-15 20:47   ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-15 21:35   ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-15 22:12     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-10-16 13:07       ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-15 14:20 ` [PATCH net-next 04/14] net: stmmac: remove PCS "mode" pause handling Russell King (Oracle)
2025-10-15 20:48   ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-15 14:20 ` [PATCH net-next 05/14] net: stmmac: remove unused PCS loopback support Russell King (Oracle)
2025-10-15 20:50   ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-15 14:20 ` [PATCH net-next 06/14] net: stmmac: remove hw->ps xxx_core_init() hardware setup Russell King (Oracle)
2025-10-15 14:20 ` [PATCH net-next 07/14] net: stmmac: remove RGMII "pcs" mode Russell King (Oracle)
2025-10-15 20:53   ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-15 14:20 ` [PATCH net-next 08/14] net: stmmac: move reverse-"pcs" mode setup to stmmac_check_pcs_mode() Russell King (Oracle)
2025-10-15 20:55   ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-15 14:20 ` [PATCH net-next 09/14] net: stmmac: simplify stmmac_check_pcs_mode() Russell King (Oracle)
2025-10-15 20:56   ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-15 14:20 ` [PATCH net-next 10/14] net: stmmac: hw->ps becomes hw->reverse_sgmii_enable Russell King (Oracle)
2025-10-15 20:57   ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-15 14:20 ` [PATCH net-next 11/14] net: stmmac: do not require snps,ps-speed for SGMII Russell King (Oracle)
2025-10-15 21:00   ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-15 21:26   ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-15 21:48     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-10-16 13:03       ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-16 13:51         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-10-15 14:20 ` [PATCH net-next 12/14] net: stmmac: only call stmmac_pcs_ctrl_ane() for integrated SGMII PCS Russell King (Oracle)
2025-10-15 21:01   ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-15 14:21 ` [PATCH net-next 13/14] net: stmmac: provide PCS initialisation hook Russell King (Oracle)
2025-10-15 21:11   ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-15 21:32     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-10-15 14:21 ` [PATCH net-next 14/14] net: stmmac: convert to phylink PCS support Russell King (Oracle)
2025-10-15 21:31   ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-15 21:57     ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2025-10-16 13:05       ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-15 15:10 ` [PATCH net-next 00/14] net: stmmac: phylink PCS conversion Russell King (Oracle)
2025-10-16  7:44   ` Maxime Chevallier

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