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From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Vadim Fedorenko <vadim.fedorenko@linux.dev>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	Florian Fainelli <florian.fainelli@broadcom.com>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Andrei Botila <andrei.botila@oss.nxp.com>,
	Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>, Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>,
	Jacob Keller <jacob.e.keller@intel.com>,
	Kory Maincent <kory.maincent@bootlin.com>,
	bcm-kernel-feedback-list@broadcom.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 2/9] phy: add hwtstamp_get callback to phy drivers
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2025 12:24:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aRXN61oICP3Vkk84@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <12c8b9e9-4375-4d52-b8f4-afccba49448c@linux.dev>

On Thu, Nov 13, 2025 at 12:12:44PM +0000, Vadim Fedorenko wrote:
> On 13/11/2025 12:02, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 13, 2025 at 11:32:00AM +0000, Vadim Fedorenko wrote:
> > > PHY devices had lack of hwtstamp_get callback even though most of them
> > > are tracking configuration info. Introduce new call back to
> > > mii_timestamper.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Vadim Fedorenko <vadim.fedorenko@linux.dev>
> > 
> > As part of my Marvell PTP work, I have a similar patch, but it's
> > way simpler. Is this not sufficient?
> > 
> > __phy_hwtstamp_get() is called via phylib_stubs struct and
> > phy_hwtstamp_get(), dev_get_hwtstamp_phylib(), dev_get_hwtstamp(),
> > and dev_ifsioc().
> > 
> > Using the phylib ioctl handler means we're implementing a path that
> > is already marked as legacy - see dev_get_hwtstamp():
> > 
> >          if (!ops->ndo_hwtstamp_get)
> >                  return dev_eth_ioctl(dev, ifr, SIOCGHWTSTAMP); /* legacy */
> > 
> > So, I think the below would be the preferred implementation.
> 
> You mean do not add SIOCGHWTSTAMP case in phy_mii_ioctl() as we should
> never reach this legacy option?

We _can_ reach phy_mii_ioctl() for SIOCGHWTSTAMP where drivers do not
provide the ndo_hwtstamp_get() method. However, as this is legacy code,
the question is: should we add it?

> Technically, some drivers are (yet) not
> converted to ndo_hwtstamp callbacks and this part can potentially work
> for bnx2x driver, until the other series lands.

Right, but providing new features to legacy paths gives less reason for
people to stop using the legacy paths.

> I was planning to remove SIOCSHWTSTAMP/SIOCGHWTSTAMP dev_eth_ioctl calls
> later once everything has landed and we have tests confirming that ioctl
> and netlink interfaces work exactly the same way.

However, implementations that do populate non-legacy ndo_hwtstamp_get()
won't work correctly with your conversion, since we'll fall through to
the path which calls __phy_hwtstamp_get() which won't do anything.

So I disagree with your patch - it only adds support for legacy net
drivers to get the hwtstamp settings from the PHY. Non-legacy won't be
supported.

At minimum, we should be adding support for non-legacy, and _possibly_
legacy.

Let's wait for others to comment on my point about adding this for the
legacy drivers/code path.

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-13 12:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-13 11:31 [PATCH net-next v2 0/9] add hwtstamp_get callback to phy drivers Vadim Fedorenko
2025-11-13 11:31 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/9] phy: rename hwtstamp callback to hwtstamp_set Vadim Fedorenko
2025-11-13 13:31   ` Andrew Lunn
2025-11-13 11:32 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/9] phy: add hwtstamp_get callback to phy drivers Vadim Fedorenko
2025-11-13 12:02   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-13 12:12     ` Vadim Fedorenko
2025-11-13 12:24       ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2025-11-17 17:39         ` Vadim Fedorenko
2025-11-17 17:56           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-13 13:36       ` Andrew Lunn
2025-11-13 16:48         ` Vadim Fedorenko
2025-11-13 16:57           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-13 17:05             ` Vadim Fedorenko
2025-11-13 17:15               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-13 18:03                 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2025-11-13 11:32 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/9] net: phy: broadcom: add HW timestamp configuration reporting Vadim Fedorenko
2025-11-13 11:32 ` [PATCH net-next v2 4/9] net: phy: dp83640: " Vadim Fedorenko
2025-11-13 11:32 ` [PATCH net-next v2 5/9] net: phy: micrel: " Vadim Fedorenko
2025-11-13 11:32 ` [PATCH net-next v2 6/9] net: phy: microchip_rds_ptp: " Vadim Fedorenko
2025-11-13 11:32 ` [PATCH net-next v2 7/9] phy: mscc: " Vadim Fedorenko
2025-11-13 11:32 ` [PATCH net-next v2 8/9] net: phy: nxp-c45-tja11xx: " Vadim Fedorenko
2025-11-13 11:32 ` [PATCH net-next v2 9/9] ptp: ptp_ines: " Vadim Fedorenko

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