From: Bobby Eshleman <bobbyeshleman@gmail.com>
To: Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@redhat.com>
Cc: "Shuah Khan" <shuah@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v9 06/14] vsock/loopback: add netns support
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2025 14:13:59 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aRepp4Weuhaxgn6W@devvm11784.nha0.facebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <kwgjzpxxqpkgwafydp65vlj6jlf7h7kcnhwgtwrrhzp2qtgkkq@z3xfl26ejspl>
On Fri, Nov 14, 2025 at 10:33:42AM +0100, Stefano Garzarella wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2025 at 10:26:04AM -0800, Bobby Eshleman wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 13, 2025 at 04:24:44PM +0100, Stefano Garzarella wrote:
> > > On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 10:27:18AM -0800, Bobby Eshleman wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 03:19:47PM +0100, Stefano Garzarella wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 10:54:48PM -0800, Bobby Eshleman wrote:
> > > > > > From: Bobby Eshleman <bobbyeshleman@meta.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Add NS support to vsock loopback. Sockets in a global mode netns
> > > > > > communicate with each other, regardless of namespace. Sockets in a local
> > > > > > mode netns may only communicate with other sockets within the same
> > > > > > namespace.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Bobby Eshleman <bobbyeshleman@meta.com>
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > > > > @@ -131,7 +136,41 @@ static void vsock_loopback_work(struct work_struct *work)
> > > > > > */
> > > > > > virtio_transport_consume_skb_sent(skb, false);
> > > > > > virtio_transport_deliver_tap_pkt(skb);
> > > > > > - virtio_transport_recv_pkt(&loopback_transport, skb, NULL, 0);
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > + /* In the case of virtio_transport_reset_no_sock(), the skb
> > > > > > + * does not hold a reference on the socket, and so does not
> > > > > > + * transitively hold a reference on the net.
> > > > > > + *
> > > > > > + * There is an ABA race condition in this sequence:
> > > > > > + * 1. the sender sends a packet
> > > > > > + * 2. worker calls virtio_transport_recv_pkt(), using the
> > > > > > + * sender's net
> > > > > > + * 3. virtio_transport_recv_pkt() uses t->send_pkt() passing the
> > > > > > + * sender's net
> > > > > > + * 4. virtio_transport_recv_pkt() free's the skb, dropping the
> > > > > > + * reference to the socket
> > > > > > + * 5. the socket closes, frees its reference to the net
> > > > > > + * 6. Finally, the worker for the second t->send_pkt() call
> > > > > > + * processes the skb, and uses the now stale net pointer for
> > > > > > + * socket lookups.
> > > > > > + *
> > > > > > + * To prevent this, we acquire a net reference in vsock_loopback_send_pkt()
> > > > > > + * and hold it until virtio_transport_recv_pkt() completes.
> > > > > > + *
> > > > > > + * Additionally, we must grab a reference on the skb before
> > > > > > + * calling virtio_transport_recv_pkt() to prevent it from
> > > > > > + * freeing the skb before we have a chance to release the net.
> > > > > > + */
> > > > > > + net_mode = virtio_vsock_skb_net_mode(skb);
> > > > > > + net = virtio_vsock_skb_net(skb);
> > > > >
> > > > > Wait, we are adding those just for loopback (in theory used only for
> > > > > testing/debugging)? And only to support virtio_transport_reset_no_sock() use
> > > > > case?
> > > >
> > > > Yes, exactly, only loopback + reset_no_sock(). The issue doesn't exist
> > > > for vhost-vsock because vhost_vsock holds a net reference, and it
> > > > doesn't exist for non-reset_no_sock calls because after looking up the
> > > > socket we transfer skb ownership to it, which holds down the skb -> sk ->
> > > > net reference chain.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Honestly I don't like this, do we have any alternative?
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll also try to think something else.
> > > > >
> > > > > Stefano
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I've been thinking about this all morning... maybe
> > > > we can do something like this:
> > > >
> > > > ```
> > > >
> > > > virtio_transport_recv_pkt(..., struct sock *reply_sk) {... }
> > > >
> > > > virtio_transport_reset_no_sock(..., reply_sk)
> > > > {
> > > > if (reply_sk)
> > > > skb_set_owner_sk_safe(reply, reply_sk)
> > >
> > > Interesting, but what about if we call skb_set_owner_sk_safe() in
> > > vsock_loopback.c just before calling virtio_transport_recv_pkt() for every
> > > skb?
> >
> > I think the issue with this is that at the time vsock_loopback calls
> > virtio_transport_recv_pkt() the reply skb hasn't yet been allocated by
> > virtio_transport_reset_no_sock() and we can't wait for it to return
> > because the original skb may be freed by then.
>
> Right!
>
> >
> > We might be able to keep it all in vsock_loopback if we removed the need
> > to use the original skb or sk by just using the net. But to do that we
> > would need to add a netns_tracker per net somewhere. I guess that would
> > end up in a list or hashmap in struct vsock_loopback.
> >
> > Another option that does simplify a little, but unfortunately still doesn't keep
> > everything in loopback:
> >
> > @@ -1205,7 +1205,7 @@ static int virtio_transport_reset_no_sock(const struct virtio_transport *t,
> > if (!reply)
> > return -ENOMEM;
> >
> > - return t->send_pkt(reply, net, net_mode);
> > + return t->send_pkt(reply, net, net_mode, skb->sk);
> > }
> >
> > @@ -27,11 +27,16 @@ static u32 vsock_loopback_get_local_cid(void)
> > }
> >
> > static int vsock_loopback_send_pkt(struct sk_buff *skb, struct net *net,
> > - enum vsock_net_mode net_mode)
> > + enum vsock_net_mode net_mode,
> > + struct sock *rst_owner)
> > {
> > struct vsock_loopback *vsock = &the_vsock_loopback;
> > int len = skb->len;
> >
> > + if (!skb->sk && rst_owner)
> > + WARN_ONCE(!skb_set_owner_sk_safe(skb, rst_owner),
> > + "loopback socket has sk_refcnt == 0\n");
> > +
>
> This doesn't seem too bad IMO, but at this point, why we can't do that
> in virtio_transport_reset_no_sock() for any kind of transport?
>
> I mean, in any case the RST packet should be handled by the same net of the
> "sender", no?
>
> At this point, can we just put the `vsk` of the sender in the `info` and
> virtio_transport_alloc_skb() will already do that.
>
> WDYT?
> Am I missing something?
This is the right answer... I'm pretty sure this works out-of-the-box
for all transports.
I'll implement it and report back with a new rev if all good or come
back to this thread to discuss if any issues arise.
Have a good weekend!
Best,
Bobby
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-14 22:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-12 6:54 [PATCH net-next v9 00/14] vsock: add namespace support to vhost-vsock and loopback Bobby Eshleman
2025-11-12 6:54 ` [PATCH net-next v9 01/14] vsock: a per-net vsock NS mode state Bobby Eshleman
2025-11-12 14:13 ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-11-12 6:54 ` [PATCH net-next v9 02/14] vsock: add netns to vsock core Bobby Eshleman
2025-11-12 14:14 ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-11-12 6:54 ` [PATCH net-next v9 03/14] vsock/virtio: add netns support to virtio transport and virtio common Bobby Eshleman
2025-11-12 14:18 ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-11-12 16:13 ` Bobby Eshleman
2025-11-12 17:39 ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-11-12 19:32 ` Bobby Eshleman
2025-11-13 15:31 ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-11-12 6:54 ` [PATCH net-next v9 04/14] vsock/virtio: pack struct virtio_vsock_skb_cb Bobby Eshleman
2025-11-12 6:54 ` [PATCH net-next v9 05/14] vsock: add netns and netns_tracker to vsock skb cb Bobby Eshleman
2025-11-12 6:54 ` [PATCH net-next v9 06/14] vsock/loopback: add netns support Bobby Eshleman
2025-11-12 14:19 ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-11-12 18:27 ` Bobby Eshleman
2025-11-13 15:24 ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-11-13 18:26 ` Bobby Eshleman
2025-11-14 9:33 ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-11-14 22:13 ` Bobby Eshleman [this message]
2025-11-17 9:27 ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-11-12 6:54 ` [PATCH net-next v9 07/14] vhost/vsock: " Bobby Eshleman
2025-11-12 6:54 ` [PATCH net-next v9 08/14] vsock: reject bad VSOCK_NET_MODE_LOCAL configuration for G2H Bobby Eshleman
2025-11-12 14:21 ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-11-12 18:36 ` Bobby Eshleman
2025-11-12 6:54 ` [PATCH net-next v9 09/14] selftests/vsock: add namespace helpers to vmtest.sh Bobby Eshleman
2025-11-12 6:54 ` [PATCH net-next v9 10/14] selftests/vsock: prepare vm management helpers for namespaces Bobby Eshleman
2025-11-12 14:23 ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-11-12 6:54 ` [PATCH net-next v9 11/14] selftests/vsock: add tests for proc sys vsock ns_mode Bobby Eshleman
2025-11-12 14:38 ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-11-12 6:54 ` [PATCH net-next v9 12/14] selftests/vsock: add namespace tests for CID collisions Bobby Eshleman
2025-11-12 6:54 ` [PATCH net-next v9 13/14] selftests/vsock: add tests for host <-> vm connectivity with namespaces Bobby Eshleman
2025-11-12 14:41 ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-11-12 6:54 ` [PATCH net-next v9 14/14] selftests/vsock: add tests for namespace deletion and mode changes Bobby Eshleman
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