From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
Cc: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>,
Daniel Golle <daniel@makrotopia.org>,
Frank Wunderlich <frankwu@gmx.de>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
Chen Minqiang <ptpt52@gmail.com>, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
"Chester A. Unal" <chester.a.unal@arinc9.com>,
DENG Qingfang <dqfext@gmail.com>,
Sean Wang <sean.wang@mediatek.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] net: dsa: mt7530: Use GPIO polarity to generate correct reset sequence
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2025 20:47:30 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aTHzYq5L7kvAPrjQ@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9f7da6ae-9e3e-442f-a203-28a8881dbe0f@kernel.org>
On Thu, Dec 04, 2025 at 06:32:23PM +0100, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 04/12/2025 18:23, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> > On 04/12/2025 18:11, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> >> On Thu, Dec 04, 2025 at 05:48:07PM +0100, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> >>> Both are the same - inverter or NOT gate, same stuff. It is just
> >>> connecting wire to pull up, not actual component on the board (although
> >>> one could make and buy such component as well...). We never describe
> >>> these inverters in the DTS, these are just too trivial circuits, thus
> >>> the final GPIO_ACTIVE_XXX should already include whatever is on the wire
> >>> between SoC and device.
> >>
> >> Please read what Andrew said:
> >> https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/3fbc4e67-b931-421c-9d83-2214aaa2f6ed@lunn.ch/
> >>
> >> Assuming there is not a NOT gate placed between the GPIO and the reset
> >> pin, because the board designer decided to do that for some reason?
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >> You two are *not* talking about the same thing. I dismissed the
> >
> >
> > It's the same thing. NOT gate is just pulling some pin down or up.
>
> Although transistor would be still needed, so indeed that's still a bit
> more than a wire and resistor as I implied.
>
> It looks like:
> https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/logic-log47.gif
A bit more than even that... I do hope folk don't use exactly that,
that's the kind of thing that would be used in "learning about
electronics" projects! That's a recipe to drive a transistor into
full saturation, which makes it comparitively very slow to turn off.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-04 20:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-29 23:46 [PATCH v3 1/2] ARM64: dts: mediatek: fix MT7531 reset GPIO polarity on multiple boards Chen Minqiang
2025-11-29 23:46 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] net: dsa: mt7530: Use GPIO polarity to generate correct reset sequence Chen Minqiang
2025-11-30 1:11 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-11-30 8:07 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-30 20:17 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-12-01 7:48 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-12-02 11:52 ` Frank Wunderlich
2025-12-02 12:20 ` Daniel Golle
2025-12-04 13:16 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-12-04 13:50 ` Daniel Golle
2025-12-04 15:45 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-12-04 14:49 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-12-04 16:02 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-12-04 16:48 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-12-04 17:11 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-12-04 17:23 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-12-04 17:32 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-12-04 20:47 ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2025-12-04 17:45 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-12-04 18:21 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-12-04 15:22 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-12-04 15:37 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-12-04 15:50 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-12-04 15:52 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-12-04 16:33 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-30 8:22 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-12-01 7:50 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-11-30 1:00 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] ARM64: dts: mediatek: fix MT7531 reset GPIO polarity on multiple boards Andrew Lunn
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