From: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
To: Scott Mitchell <scott.k.mitch1@gmail.com>
Cc: kadlec@netfilter.org, fw@strlen.de, phil@nwl.cc,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] netfilter: nfnetlink_queue: optimize verdict lookup with hash table
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2026 01:50:16 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aWg5yCcSrLZka854@chamomile> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFn2buDeCxJp3OHDifc5yX0pQndmLCKc=PShT+6Jq3-uy8C-OA@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Scott,
On Tue, Jan 13, 2026 at 08:32:56PM -0500, Scott Mitchell wrote:
> > > + NFQA_CFG_HASH_SIZE, /* __u32 hash table size (rounded to power of 2) */
> >
> > This should use the rhashtable implementation, I don't find a good
> > reason why this is not used in first place for this enhancement.
>
> Thank you for the review! I can make the changes. Before implementing,
> I have a few questions to ensure I understand the preferred approach:
>
> 1. For the "perns" allocation comment - which approach did you have in mind:
> a) Shared rhashtable in nfnl_queue_net (initialized in
> nfnl_queue_net_init) with key={queue_num, packet_id}
> b) Per-instance rhashtable in nfqnl_instance, with lock refactoring
> so initialization happens outside rcu_read_lock
Yes, but...
Florian suggests a single rhashtable for all netns should be good
enough, you only have to include net_hash_mix(net) in the hash.
> 2. The lock refactoring (GFP_ATOMIC → GFP_KERNEL) is independent of
> the hash structure choice, correct? We could fix that separately?
No lock refactoring anymore since rhashtable would be initialized only
once for all netns, as Florian suggests.
> 3. Can you help me understand the trade-offs you considered for
> rhashtable vs hlist_head? Removing the API makes sense, and I want to
> better understand how to weigh that against runtime overhead (RCU,
> locks, atomic ops) for future design decisions.
Your approach consumes ~1Mbyte per queue instance, and we could end
up with 64k queues per-netns.
This is exposed to unprivileged containers, this allows userspace
to deplete the atomic reserves since GFP_ATOMIC is toggled, and...
there is no GFP_ATOMIC_ACCOUNT flag, then accounting does not apply in
this case.
While rhashtable a bit heavyweight, it should consume a lot less
memory and users does not have to do any hashtable bucket tunning.
> I'll use a custom hashfn to preserve the current mask-based hashing
> for the incrementing IDs.
OK.
Thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-15 0:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-22 0:37 [PATCH v5] netfilter: nfnetlink_queue: optimize verdict lookup with hash table Scott Mitchell
2025-12-03 18:33 ` Scott Mitchell
2025-12-03 18:40 ` Florian Westphal
2025-12-03 21:07 ` Scott Mitchell
2026-01-13 0:25 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2026-01-14 1:32 ` Scott Mitchell
2026-01-15 0:50 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso [this message]
2026-01-15 17:07 ` Florian Westphal
2026-01-17 17:33 ` Scott Mitchell
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