From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A9AEA33993; Thu, 15 Jan 2026 17:08:20 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1768496900; cv=none; b=cSMQDfoIlaolkWqEgFpn6ZZOdx0x40cPX8hw7mKoWNd25dEqMymfiUBA0RRqCglNczZA9RgPhZdfiDQou1nSAEejAqUwt2xcAkK5qtuS4RZEg5eNiQ9yWOO5cHDEKmer4ceFPrBbXk6YuWOr7iOq524bllbWjQtyXCixcZYJXuI= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1768496900; c=relaxed/simple; bh=iOcpCIZ+a4vdsBx+sEdiZ2mYqK9JkOiq05tb+TdjeNc=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=dL3dngSDaVq0Oxr1kxjm2PJLcMkuP31pGx2K+2IhTsU+ypPzc4wvbszvpUWLJuvsjTNttPRpwE/pI4ewWcOfzAr3+k7rq4hWfby9BhPxc+hXo5BGzcgkLPCJYT31/D61bwhU6Aybg42HyvOilpAY1AIg/5JMwwndlY6N2h7uPUA= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=s1yIGlI3; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="s1yIGlI3" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4AB4EC16AAE; Thu, 15 Jan 2026 17:08:19 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1768496900; bh=iOcpCIZ+a4vdsBx+sEdiZ2mYqK9JkOiq05tb+TdjeNc=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=s1yIGlI3tuUg/NO2qx6O647UlNwXPcLKi71SUUFXNzkFVG+7072TXoWKG9KBeIv3X k6zi/1c6SJu38yetGEtkdXcWBT6bv6b1Jid1keiPzIv9btU2FzYyxDOKvGLmhmdfJg P63Fds8Oetnvb8+R1XOcc10yubbOZaDJILZsxSVwoAGfdLuc0WkwQO3qOhX4x0f9Bf Weov/+lWZw0okq9OmyKnrZtDgfLrDK8xzet46Fxr5EZbgZZwELaE4gQhy5Zkz3XGuz Kgn4u2sSdpcK6IUkeLQls3S64gvP/K86TAiLfTXTWop1m0U0HCCyehX1H3efyUmfrG JhRc5L0SNDL0g== Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2026 17:08:17 +0000 From: Simon Horman To: Thomas Bogendoerfer Cc: "Maciej W. Rozycki" , Ethan Nelson-Moore , linux-mips@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] pcnet32: remove VLB support Message-ID: References: <20260107071831.32895-1-enelsonmoore@gmail.com> <20260109180443.GO345651@kernel.org> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: On Mon, Jan 12, 2026 at 11:09:05PM +0100, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote: > On Sun, Jan 11, 2026 at 12:40:56AM +0000, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote: > > [+cc Thomas, linux-mips] > > > > On Fri, 9 Jan 2026, Simon Horman wrote: > > > > > > This allows the code managing device instances to be simplified > > > > significantly. The VLB bus is very obsolete and last appeared on > > > > P5 Pentium-era hardware. Support for it has been removed from > > > > other drivers, and it is highly unlikely anyone is using it with > > > > modern Linux kernels. > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Ethan Nelson-Moore > > > > > > Hi Ethan, > > > > > > I don't think this driver has received much attention for some time. > > > So, unless you have hardware to test changes on, I would suggest > > > either leaving it alone or, if we suspect there are no users, > > > removing it. > > > > You mean discarding the whole of drivers/net/ethernet/amd/pcnet32.c? If > > so, then it's a hard NAK from me. It's the onboard/netboot interface of > > the MIPS Malta platform and it continues being used regularly, primarily > > with QEMU setups, although I have actual Malta hardware in my lab too, > > usually running 24/7. It's one of the primary MIPS plaforms, cf. > > arch/mips/configs/malta_defconfig. > > I have a few more MIPS systems with PCnet32 chip on board. And this > driver was the first network driver for VMware. I see no reason to > remove it as it simply works. Understood. Thanks for the valuable feedback.