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From: Bobby Eshleman <bobbyeshleman@gmail.com>
To: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
Cc: "Stefano Garzarella" <sgarzare@redhat.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Simon Horman" <horms@kernel.org>,
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	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Jason Wang" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"Eugenio Pérez" <eperezma@redhat.com>,
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	"K. Y. Srinivasan" <kys@microsoft.com>,
	"Haiyang Zhang" <haiyangz@microsoft.com>,
	"Wei Liu" <wei.liu@kernel.org>,
	"Dexuan Cui" <decui@microsoft.com>,
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	berrange@redhat.com, "Sargun Dhillon" <sargun@sargun.me>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	"Bobby Eshleman" <bobbyeshleman@meta.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v15 01/12] vsock: add netns to vsock core
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2026 09:36:48 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aXEOoCqMvsbN2gtJ@devvm11784.nha0.facebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4997118e-471c-45fe-bc1f-8f6140199db5@redhat.com>

On Wed, Jan 21, 2026 at 05:32:34PM +0100, Paolo Abeni wrote:
> On 1/21/26 3:48 PM, Stefano Garzarella wrote:
> >> diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt b/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
> >> index a8d0afde7f85..b6e3bfe365a1 100644
> >> --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
> >> +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
> >> @@ -8253,6 +8253,20 @@ Kernel parameters
> >> 			            them quite hard to use for exploits but
> >> 			            might break your system.
> >>
> >> +	vsock_init_ns_mode=
> >> +			[KNL,NET] Set the vsock namespace mode for the init
> >> +			(root) network namespace.
> >> +
> >> +			global      [default] The init namespace operates in
> >> +			            global mode where CIDs are system-wide and
> >> +			            sockets can communicate across global
> >> +			            namespaces.
> >> +
> >> +			local       The init namespace operates in local mode
> >> +			            where CIDs are private to the namespace and
> >> +			            sockets can only communicate within the same
> >> +			            namespace.
> >> +
> > 
> > My comment on v14 was more to start a discussion :-) sorry to not be 
> > clear.
> > 
> > I briefly discussed it with Paolo in chat to better understand our 
> > policy between cmdline parameters and module parameters, and it seems 
> > that both are discouraged.
> 
> Double checking the git log it looks like __setup() usage is less
> constrained/restricted than what I thought.
> 
> > So he asked me if we have a use case for this, and thinking about it, I 
> > don't have one at the moment. Also, if a user decides to set all netns 
> > to local, whether init_net is local or global doesn't really matter, 
> > right?
> > 
> > So perhaps before adding this, we should have a real use case.
> > Perhaps more than this feature, I would add a way to change the default 
> > of all netns (including init_net) from global to local. But we can do 
> > that later, since all netns have a way to understand what mode they are 
> > in, so we don't break anything and the user has to explicitly change it, 
> > knowing that they are breaking compatibility with pre-netns support.\
> 
> Lacking a clear use-case for vsock_init_ns_mode I tend to think it would
> be better to postpone its introduction. It should be easier to add it
> later than vice-versa.
> 
> If there is a clear/well defined/known use-case, I guess the series can
> go as-is.
> 
> /P
> 

Our use case also does not need the ability to set the init ns mode, so
I'll revert this bit.

Thanks,
Bobby

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-21 17:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-16 21:28 [PATCH net-next v15 00/12] vsock: add namespace support to vhost-vsock and loopback Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-16 21:28 ` [PATCH net-next v15 01/12] vsock: add netns to vsock core Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-21 14:48   ` Stefano Garzarella
2026-01-21 16:32     ` Paolo Abeni
2026-01-21 17:36       ` Bobby Eshleman [this message]
2026-01-21 17:49     ` Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-16 21:28 ` [PATCH net-next v15 02/12] virtio: set skb owner of virtio_transport_reset_no_sock() reply Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-16 21:28 ` [PATCH net-next v15 03/12] vsock: add netns support to virtio transports Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-16 21:28 ` [PATCH net-next v15 04/12] selftests/vsock: increase timeout to 1200 Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-16 21:28 ` [PATCH net-next v15 05/12] selftests/vsock: add namespace helpers to vmtest.sh Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-16 21:28 ` [PATCH net-next v15 06/12] selftests/vsock: prepare vm management helpers for namespaces Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-21  2:54   ` [net-next,v15,06/12] " Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-21  5:16     ` Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-16 21:28 ` [PATCH net-next v15 07/12] selftests/vsock: add vm_dmesg_{warn,oops}_count() helpers Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-16 21:28 ` [PATCH net-next v15 08/12] selftests/vsock: use ss to wait for listeners instead of /proc/net Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-16 21:28 ` [PATCH net-next v15 09/12] selftests/vsock: add tests for proc sys vsock ns_mode Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-16 21:28 ` [PATCH net-next v15 10/12] selftests/vsock: add namespace tests for CID collisions Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-16 21:28 ` [PATCH net-next v15 11/12] selftests/vsock: add tests for host <-> vm connectivity with namespaces Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-16 21:28 ` [PATCH net-next v15 12/12] selftests/vsock: add tests for namespace deletion Bobby Eshleman

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