From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pandora.armlinux.org.uk (pandora.armlinux.org.uk [78.32.30.218]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B12C4298CAB for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2026 01:55:42 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=78.32.30.218 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1769478944; cv=none; b=DN2gMreZfOBw8eumZB+H0HTtL/i+EODIyIpIsf5WCnyKNeLo0gV8zNQ3Z+BczcThl/vrKSUPppEvnqvY8LmNHzepzl9lGX3jumwXz8Nd1WwmbDBnfIxzUqYIf0gZXjLqQhiJv7YigF6qxRwXlDu394utWTXrvjZHqfgv3QIyUeQ= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1769478944; c=relaxed/simple; bh=9oRyMB4v9knl25OEKbfUpH7lggk4I2Mck4BStnbftSk=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=YH/bsQwi8WLCuYn4PWbTqIKV8wqRQny6UvgW6/8bqpYlrdGkkhZ9e6EDg3cpj0McMsG76pZq/cOnws9EmtRo6Kw9qz/PnrYxPDr5JDZPZbwpK9OMVGwDBb1Sg79L90cvGAbVbEkDJH5iGXcabQ8BnoAdVu7abRriyc7eK60QHMU= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=armlinux.org.uk; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=armlinux.org.uk; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=armlinux.org.uk header.i=@armlinux.org.uk header.b=K73u5pQr; arc=none smtp.client-ip=78.32.30.218 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=armlinux.org.uk Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=armlinux.org.uk Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=armlinux.org.uk header.i=@armlinux.org.uk header.b="K73u5pQr" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=armlinux.org.uk; s=pandora-2019; h=Sender:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=LvO5XQ+hJ+bO6yYuL4I5nYEstcN+CoP2zxmc7kZjaHA=; b=K73u5pQrlQ8ZLV9RxyHv2J/jwb 9aR25JTtJYKT8McR4etdr9G5J1IwvVSnsqBfzSAWRF2Xs04MHMmaaIk2HKIuZzucV8DfZgDCogub5 sHQO6jFzMTR4S8yPAo1aWvXX6FbTXBTINf3sp2BO6tar7XkhFZZAIi/4SLGV0tjm4dauvCLoN9c1w nR5f7Uh3cpcqPMnH07wE6MBFCchZp2babQSwibPJZIyJcrF7GdNy0WcLqJs1uorvMUraFtiNQa0AX TPqZ8MGFz/TW7126NU2Tamj3H6qp7zK4GYfC4gx7Myi/MzdpajEEK4CKcbbwdzjffkq3W1dTlg2sa Gq//ZoRg==; Received: from shell.armlinux.org.uk ([fd8f:7570:feb6:1:5054:ff:fe00:4ec]:44380) by pandora.armlinux.org.uk with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.98.2) (envelope-from ) id 1vkYIo-000000005WJ-0PkD; Tue, 27 Jan 2026 01:55:34 +0000 Received: from linux by shell.armlinux.org.uk with local (Exim 4.98.2) (envelope-from ) id 1vkYIj-000000005Ta-3Dv2; Tue, 27 Jan 2026 01:55:29 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2026 01:55:29 +0000 From: "Russell King (Oracle)" To: Jakub Kicinski Cc: Andrew Lunn , Alexandre Torgue , Andrew Lunn , "David S. Miller" , Eric Dumazet , Heiko Stuebner , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org, linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org, Paolo Abeni Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 06/22] net: stmmac: rk: add SoC specific ->init() method Message-ID: References: <20260126165144.25055591@kernel.org> <20260126171606.6153aa1a@kernel.org> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20260126171606.6153aa1a@kernel.org> Sender: Russell King (Oracle) On Mon, Jan 26, 2026 at 05:16:06PM -0800, Jakub Kicinski wrote: > On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 00:59:05 +0000 Russell King (Oracle) wrote: > > > > and there's no way to find out for about 9 hours (more like 19 hours > > > > for me because of the timezone) as the AI reviews are not accessible > > > > until then. > > > > > > The patchwork checks are for maintainers. If someone wants to build > > > a public CI for contributors that'd be great. We can even provide > > > funds from the netdev foundation. But let us be clear that the current > > > setup is until now maintained primarily by me for me on the weekends. > > > Unless you make an effort to actually help I don't think it is in good > > > taste to complain. > > > > This sounds like my contributions to netdev aren't valued, and if that's > > the case, I will stop. > > Quite the opposite, what I'm saying is that your complaints make me > feel like the weekends spent on trying to make this project come out > of stone age testing-wise are not appreciated. Of course your > contributions are appreciated. > > The AI code reviews on existing buggy code are indeed very painful. > Not sure what we can do here to make the contributing easier. > It costs us around $2 now to review a single patch so we can't afford > public access. I think Google is working on making Gemini code reviews > public and free, hopefully that materializes. For a series of this size and complexity, the AI reviews are valued because it's finding real issues that I can't test for. The big problem is that the AI only finds one issue with a patch, not all the issues. So, it's going to take multiple submissions to get to a point where the AI review of this series is clean. I suspect the problem with "AI only finds one issue" is that the AI systems aren't advanced enough to do anything else yet. So, do I continue fixing the AI issues each day and resubmitting a new version of this series each day this week, costing $44 each time? Do we reach a point where it gets merged even though the AI review still has issues? These are honest questions... and if they haven't been considered, I think they need to be, because I can see this series becoming very expensive. -- RMK's Patch system: https://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/ FTTP is here! 80Mbps down 10Mbps up. Decent connectivity at last!