From: Stanislav Fomichev <stfomichev@gmail.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Bobby Eshleman <bobbyeshleman@gmail.com>,
Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@google.com>,
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Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
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Bobby Eshleman <bobbyeshleman@meta.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v10 0/5] net: devmem: improve cpu cost of RX token management
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2026 22:00:28 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aXhUfC7ZyYge1jti@mini-arch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260126173124.1f0bb98e@kernel.org>
On 01/26, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jan 2026 10:45:22 -0800 Bobby Eshleman wrote:
> > I'm onboard with improving what we have since it helps all of us
> > currently using this API, though I'm not opposed to discussing a
> > redesign in another thread/RFC. I do see the attraction to locating the
> > core logic in one place and possibly reducing some complexity around
> > socket/binding relationships.
> >
> > FWIW regarding nl, I do see it supports rtnl lock-free operations via
> > '62256f98f244 rtnetlink: add RTNL_FLAG_DOIT_UNLOCKED' and routing was
> > recently made lockless with that. I don't see / know of any fast path
> > precedent. I'm aware there are some things I'm not sure about being
> > relevant performance-wise, like hitting skb alloc an additional time
> > every release batch. I'd want to do some minimal latency comparisons
> > between that path and sockopt before diving head-first.
>
> FTR I'm not really pushing Netlink specifically, it may work it
> may not. Perhaps some other ioctl-y thing exists. Just in general
> setsockopt() on a specific socket feels increasingly awkward for
> buffer flow. Maybe y'all disagree.
>
> I thought I'd clarify since I may be seen as "Mr Netlink Everywhere" :)
From my side, if we do a completely new uapi, my preference would be on
an af_xdp like mapped rings (presumably on a netlink socket?) to completely
avoid the user-kernel copies.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-27 6:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-16 5:02 [PATCH net-next v10 0/5] net: devmem: improve cpu cost of RX token management Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-16 5:02 ` [PATCH net-next v10 1/5] net: devmem: rename tx_vec to vec in dmabuf binding Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-16 5:02 ` [PATCH net-next v10 2/5] net: devmem: refactor sock_devmem_dontneed for autorelease split Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-16 5:02 ` [PATCH net-next v10 3/5] net: devmem: implement autorelease token management Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-21 1:00 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-21 5:33 ` Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-22 4:15 ` Mina Almasry
2026-01-22 5:18 ` Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-16 5:02 ` [PATCH net-next v10 4/5] net: devmem: document NETDEV_A_DMABUF_AUTORELEASE netlink attribute Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-21 0:36 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-21 5:44 ` Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-22 1:35 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-22 2:37 ` Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-22 2:50 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-22 3:25 ` Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-22 3:46 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-22 4:07 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-01-27 1:26 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-27 2:30 ` Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-27 2:44 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-27 3:06 ` Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-27 3:43 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-27 3:50 ` Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-16 5:02 ` [PATCH net-next v10 5/5] selftests: drv-net: devmem: add autorelease tests Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-21 1:07 ` [PATCH net-next v10 0/5] net: devmem: improve cpu cost of RX token management Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-21 5:29 ` Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-22 1:37 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-22 4:21 ` Mina Almasry
2026-01-26 18:45 ` Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-27 1:31 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-27 6:00 ` Stanislav Fomichev [this message]
2026-01-27 6:48 ` Bobby Eshleman
2026-01-30 11:13 ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-02-05 3:48 ` Jens Axboe
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