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From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Vinod Koul <vkoul@kernel.org>
Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	neil.armstrong@linaro.org, Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	krzk+dt@kernel.org, conor+dt@kernel.org,
	ciprianmarian.costea@oss.nxp.com, s32@nxp.com,
	p.zabel@pengutronix.de, ghennadi.procopciuc@nxp.com,
	Ionut.Vicovan@nxp.com, linux-phy@lists.infradead.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Frank.li@nxp.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] phy: s32g: Add serdes subsystem phy
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2026 14:36:46 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aXtwfj1vqB1cXKFM@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aXtvDn_-pCuKPrnf@vaman>

On Thu, Jan 29, 2026 at 08:00:38PM +0530, Vinod Koul wrote:
> On 29-01-26, 13:51, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 29, 2026 at 02:36:01PM +0100, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> > > On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 at 14:23, Russell King (Oracle)
> > > <linux@armlinux.org.uk> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2026 at 02:01:13PM +0100, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> > > > > yes, the usual pattern is :
> > > > > - phy_set_mode_ext()
> > > > > - then phy_power_on()
> > > > > but I can add an additional check
> > > >
> > > > Please read Documentation/driver-api/phy/phy.rst section "Order of API
> > > > calls" which suggests phy_set_mode_ext() after phy_power_on().
> > > 
> > > Fair enough.
> > > That being said, all pcie drivers  that use phy_set_mode_ext(), call
> > > it before phy_power_on()
> > 
> > It looks like many ethernet drivers do the same, so I think maybe the
> > generic PHY documentation is incorrect or misleading, or is expressing
> > a preference that almost no one follows. Something for the generic PHY
> > maintainers to look at and/or comment on.
> 
> I would feel it makes sense to configure the mode first and then power
> the phy up. As commented above yes it looks like apart from one tegra
> driver rest seem to do it this way.
> 
> Lets update the documentation

Please also indicate in the documentation whether changing the submode
of the serdes (particularly for ethernet) is permitted without doing a
phy_power_down()..phy_power_up() dance around the phy_set_mode_ext()
call.

Thanks.

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  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-29 14:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-26  9:21 [PATCH 0/4] Serdes: s32g: Add support for serdes subsystem Vincent Guittot
2026-01-26  9:21 ` [PATCH 1/4] dt-bindings: serdes: s32g: Add NXP " Vincent Guittot
2026-01-29 12:50   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-29 13:05     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-01-26  9:21 ` [PATCH 2/4] phy: s32g: Add serdes subsystem phy Vincent Guittot
2026-01-26 13:11   ` Philipp Zabel
2026-01-27 10:07     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-01-29  9:54   ` Simon Horman
2026-01-29 13:01     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-01-29 13:23       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-29 13:36         ` Vincent Guittot
2026-01-29 13:51           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-29 14:30             ` Vinod Koul
2026-01-29 14:36               ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2026-01-30 14:50                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-29 11:17   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-29 13:02     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-01-26  9:21 ` [PATCH 3/4] phy: s32g: Add serdes xpcs subsystem Vincent Guittot
2026-01-29 11:59   ` Simon Horman
2026-01-29 13:24     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-01-29 16:20       ` Simon Horman
2026-01-29 12:30   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-29 13:45     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-01-26  9:21 ` [PATCH 4/4] MAINTAINERS: Add MAINTAINER for NXP S32G Serdes driver Vincent Guittot
2026-01-29 12:07   ` Simon Horman
2026-01-29 13:25     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-01-29 12:36 ` [PATCH 0/4] Serdes: s32g: Add support for serdes subsystem Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-29 13:26   ` Vincent Guittot

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