From: Sabrina Dubroca <sd@queasysnail.net>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
Cc: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>,
Steffen Klassert <steffen.klassert@secunet.com>,
Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>, Ilan Tayari <ilant@mellanox.com>,
Guy Shapiro <guysh@mellanox.com>,
Yossi Kuperman <yossiku@mellanox.com>,
Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] xfrm: always flush state and policy upon NETDEV_DOWN/NETDEV_UNREGISTER events
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2026 17:05:32 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aXuFTJZ3SvaCBXj5@krikkit> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d0aa3c51-291b-40fd-82b4-15024dc4404b@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
2026-01-29, 19:16:30 +0900, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> On 2026/01/29 18:09, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 29, 2026 at 05:06:08PM +0900, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> >> On 2026/01/28 21:35, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2026 at 07:44:02PM +0900, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> >>>> On 2026/01/28 19:24, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> >>>>> I think this can work, but IMHO the more robust approach is to ensure that all
> >>>>> states and policies are removed when the NETIF_F_HW_ESP feature bit is cleared.
> >>>>
> >>>> The transaction will become complicated, for dev->features manipulation
> >>>> function can fail.
> >>>
> >>> Line above returning NOTIFY_OK, check that NETIF_F_HW_ESP is cleared,
> >>> and remove everything.
> >>
> >> That answer needs more clarification. I came to get confused about what we should do.
> >>
> >> Question 1:
> >>
> >> Since NETIF_F_HW_ESP is a hardware dependent flag, not all "struct net_device"
> >> support NETIF_F_HW_ESP flag. Is this interpretation correct?
> >
> > Yes, however any device (SW or HW) should set this flag if they want to
> > provide IPsec offload.
>
> OK. There are "IPsec with offload" and "IPsec without offload".
> Both cases use code in net/xfrm/ directory.
>
> Users (not the kernel source but Linux administrator) can choose
> "IPsec without offload" by clearing the NETIF_F_HW_ESP bit via
> "ethtool -K $dev esp-hw-offload off" command even if $dev supports
> both "IPsec with offload" and "IPsec without offload".
We should avoid talking about "IPsec with/without offload" when this
can mean multiple different things:
- ip xfrm state add ... offload ...
(and the offload request actually succeeded)
- packet going through all the offload code and to the device
- device with NETIF_F_HW_ESP set in dev->features
- device with ->xdo_dev_state_add
(I'm probably forgetting a few more)
> >> Question 2:
> >>
> >> Sabrina Dubroca commented
> >>
> >> But the current behavior ("ignore NETIF_F_HW_ESP and call
> >> xdo_dev_state_add for new states anyway") has been established for
> >> multiple years. Changing that now seems a bit risky.
> >>
> >> at https://lkml.kernel.org/r/aXd3QjzwOVm0Q9LF@krikkit .
> >>
> >> Is that comment saying that we have been permitting a "struct net_device"
> >> to be selected by xfrm_dev_state_add() even if that "struct net_device"
> >> does not support NETIF_F_HW_ESP flag. Is this interpretation correct?
> >
> > I don't understand what does it mean "device doesn't support offload but
> > state was offloaded anyway".
To Leon: this is not what Tetsuo wrote.
(but to be fair, "net_device does not support NETIF_F_HW_ESP flag" is
a bit confusing)
> Users (not the kernel source but Linux administrator) who are using $dev
> which supports only "IPsec without offload" can call xfrm_dev_state_add()
> because xfrm_dev_state_add() does not check for the NETIF_F_HW_ESP bit.
>
> Therefore such users can create "struct xfrm_state" with a reference to
> "struct net_device" held at
> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.19-rc5/source/net/xfrm/xfrm_user.c#L986 .
>
> >
> >>
> >> Question 3:
> >>
> >> Leon Romanovsky suggested that, as a more robust approach, remove all states
> >> and policies when the NETIF_F_HW_ESP feature bit is cleared.
> >>
> >> But I consider that such approach will not work, for (according to Q2 above)
> >> xfrm_dev_state_add() can be called even if the NETIF_F_HW_ESP feature bit is not
> >> set. Also, I think that there is no guarantee that dev->features manipulation
> >> function is called after xfrm_dev_state_add() was called.
> >>
> >> Therefore, we need an event that are guaranteed to be called.
> >> The NETDEV_UNREGISTER event is guaranteed to be called when unregistring
> >> a "struct net_device", and therefore a good place to remove all states and
> >> policies.
> >>
> >> Is this interpretation correct?
>
> Since we don't have a syzbot reproducer, I can't tell whether syzbot is manually
> clearing the NETIF_F_HW_ESP bit or not. But as described above, a syzbot report
>
> unregister_netdevice: waiting for netdevsim0 to become free. Usage count = 2
> ref_tracker: netdev@ffff888052f24618 has 1/1 users at
> __netdev_tracker_alloc include/linux/netdevice.h:4400 [inline]
> netdev_tracker_alloc include/linux/netdevice.h:4412 [inline]
> xfrm_dev_state_add+0x3a5/0x1080 net/xfrm/xfrm_device.c:316
>
> indicates that "struct xfrm_state" with a reference to "struct net_device" held
> is remaining because xfrm_dev_state_flush() is not called upon NETDEV_UNREGISTER
> event.
I don't know what syzbot did, but this triggers the same symptoms for
me:
echo 0 > /sys/bus/netdevsim/new_device
dev=$(ls -1 /sys/bus/netdevsim/devices/netdevsim0/net/)
ip x s a src 192.168.13.1 dst 192.168.13.2 proto esp spi 0x1000 mode tunnel aead 'rfc4106(gcm(aes))' $key 128 offload crypto dev $dev dir out
ethtool -K $dev esp-hw-offload off
echo 0 > /sys/bus/netdevsim/del_device
--
Sabrina
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-29 16:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-27 15:32 [PATCH net] xfrm: always flush state and policy upon NETDEV_DOWN/NETDEV_UNREGISTER events Tetsuo Handa
2026-01-28 10:24 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-28 10:44 ` Tetsuo Handa
2026-01-28 12:35 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-29 8:06 ` Tetsuo Handa
2026-01-29 9:09 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-29 10:16 ` Tetsuo Handa
2026-01-29 10:32 ` Tetsuo Handa
2026-01-29 16:05 ` Sabrina Dubroca [this message]
2026-02-01 13:12 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-02-01 14:17 ` Tetsuo Handa
2026-01-29 15:59 ` Sabrina Dubroca
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