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From: Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Donald Hunter <donald.hunter@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@fomichev.me>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	Tony Nguyen <anthony.l.nguyen@intel.com>,
	Przemek Kitszel <przemyslaw.kitszel@intel.com>,
	Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>, Song Liu <song@kernel.org>,
	Yonghong Song <yonghong.song@linux.dev>,
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	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	Maciej Fijalkowski <maciej.fijalkowski@intel.com>,
	Jakub Sitnicki <jakub@cloudflare.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v3 1/5] netlink: specs: Add XDP RX checksum capability to XDP metadata specs
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2026 18:11:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aZyKWoxnywXKWth9@lore-desk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260219091344.1d8517f3@kernel.org>

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> On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 12:04:56 +0100 Lorenzo Bianconi wrote:
> > > On Tue, 17 Feb 2026 09:33:56 +0100 Lorenzo Bianconi wrote:  
> > > > + * In case of success, ``ip_summed`` is set to the RX checksum result. Possible
> > > > + * values are:
> > > > + * ``XDP_CHECKSUM_NONE``
> > > > + * ``XDP_CHECKSUM_UNNECESSARY``
> > > > + * ``XDP_CHECKSUM_COMPLETE``
> > > > + *
> > > > + * In case of success, ``cksum_meta`` contains the hw computed checksum value
> > > > + * for ``XDP_CHECKSUM_COMPLETE`` or the ``csum_level`` for
> > > > + * ``XDP_CHECKSUM_UNNECESSARY``. It is set to 0 for ``XDP_CHECKSUM_NONE``  
> > > 
> > > It's fairly common for NICs to report both csum complete and
> > > unnecessary. Which one should the driver return in that case?  
> > 
> > Do you mean what is value for cksum_meta if we do not report csum_level for
> > XDP_CHECKSUM_UNNECESSARY/CHECKSUM_UNNECESSARY use-case? (as suggested by
> > Stanislav).
> 
> More fundamentally whether the API is right.
> 
> > My original idea is:
> > - if the hw reports CHECKSUM_COMPLETE:
> >   - ip_summed = XDP_CHECKSUM_COMPLETE
> >   - cksum_meta contains the checksum computed by the hw
> > - if the hw reports CHECKSUM_UNNECESSARY
> >   - ip_summed = XDP_CHECKSUM_UNNECESSARY
> >   - cksum_meta = csum_level <-- Stanislav suggests to drop this one
> > - if the hw reports CHECKSUM_NONE
> >   - ip_summed = XDP_CHECKSUM_NONE
> >   - cksum_meta = 0
> 
> Off the top of my head drivers prefer reporting UNNECESSARY when they
> have both, and reserve COMPLETE for cases where L4 could not be found
> or is incorrect. Why don't we report both? We're using 3 args, we still
> have 3 to go. We could turn ip_summed into a bitmap and have explicit
> output args for both level and csum complete value?

Ack, thx for the explanation. Just for sake of understanding, is there
any NIC capable of reporting both csum_value and csum for the same packet
in the DMA descriptor? Or is this change needed to be future-proof?

> 
> One more thing I'd like us to at least have a plan for at this stage
> is how to deal with COMPLETE + modified packet + XDP_PASS.
> Right now some drivers discard COMPLETE when XDP is attached since
> they can't be sure if XDP modifies the packet. Other drivers don't
> and we end up with bad csum splat. Do we have a recommendation on
> the correct behavior? If not - should we have a kfunc to adjust /
> discard csum complete explicitly?

At the moment there is no way to store the csum value we got running
bpf_xdp_metadata_rx_checksum() in order to be consumed during
xdp_buff/xdp_frame to skb conversion (this info can just be consumed in the
ebpf program bound to the NIC) but I guess the issue you pointed out can be
solved in the verifier during program load time. What do you think?

Regards,
Lorenzo


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  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-23 17:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-17  8:33 [PATCH bpf-next v3 0/5] Add the the capability to load HW RX checsum in eBPF programs Lorenzo Bianconi
2026-02-17  8:33 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 1/5] netlink: specs: Add XDP RX checksum capability to XDP metadata specs Lorenzo Bianconi
2026-02-18  1:01   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-02-18 10:58     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2026-02-19  1:47   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-19 11:04     ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2026-02-19 17:13       ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-23 17:11         ` Lorenzo Bianconi [this message]
2026-02-23 23:18           ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-27 13:21             ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2026-02-27 23:32               ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-28 11:58                 ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2026-02-17  8:33 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 2/5] net: veth: Add xmo_rx_checksum callback to veth driver Lorenzo Bianconi
2026-02-17  8:33 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 3/5] net: ice: Add xmo_rx_checksum callback Lorenzo Bianconi
2026-02-17  8:33 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 4/5] selftests/bpf: Add selftest support for bpf_xdp_metadata_rx_checksum Lorenzo Bianconi
2026-02-17  9:17   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-02-17  8:34 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 5/5] selftests/bpf: Add bpf_xdp_metadata_rx_checksum support to xdp_hw_metadat prog Lorenzo Bianconi

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