From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pandora.armlinux.org.uk (pandora.armlinux.org.uk [78.32.30.218]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F13BC3A8736; Tue, 3 Mar 2026 15:12:28 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=78.32.30.218 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1772550750; cv=none; b=d6owGrq8jPSkxcgqWWc44HSUoWHGzC+7uUz782h6gjXwW7aS7dN/2AybtLO5wldz1yxqkYKm7mhL8coyczTeJrJxRguWHWkt31ltLwxhDJPJ5VwvvSj1TcOkdVBchGs02E3uhcBlI9RcRWqZwlVYYH7DcpLQ1C7gEahZNEk0Csk= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1772550750; c=relaxed/simple; bh=4JEOj1Yv9JwueQS3GU/dm4CBVow7OUg+VKtl15NRjUM=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=SlxwSek+gxdyOqrxJuxDq35OXCYHy6tEvcILUuxxvhaT8XpgLYcf6uRQNeo9F7F0tKBc8yURnnoRa0xqj42fk/pO30VKs2DvnE2G/TxTm7s8b3MwHrjvdDqM2WDbgj2jJMisqsfsdPch+9TinXpZ8yZ31yrxwGrWhlDBxv+MMu0= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=armlinux.org.uk; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=armlinux.org.uk; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=armlinux.org.uk header.i=@armlinux.org.uk header.b=E2vVxtjf; arc=none smtp.client-ip=78.32.30.218 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=armlinux.org.uk Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=armlinux.org.uk Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=armlinux.org.uk header.i=@armlinux.org.uk header.b="E2vVxtjf" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=armlinux.org.uk; s=pandora-2019; h=Sender:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=9HNWqW/5qWHN0QBEI80/r96WRbljDrLfozCnuqKtqBQ=; b=E2vVxtjfJQ4Z5xCAc75ygEl+L5 IIdWZgg+42iBkPmro0AfJ4Zntg3MubLvAQlkLOnpwhLfSZre649TjYJ+rDrzT7bpqkQnZodvsOqoj HuHMV1P7Iac0kDX0whyjGQ5TeTK8sIsAhxV0wikH+bsCx6sgKdLzUa+1pGQvK5YaO7c04kaLQFT3y QgsBaX6Ly9brinTTe/C+TiZsJ32T888nKyX02PSxUVjM5ou46vSBIZf0S6ZAqqSJlnIrprPmGSXjF hoOCvFahbS7kGbdJ1aYwonfIUxyAWjEvvsFpK7YJBhGfSWKUShkI8kgG4OXCXYS8cmsSVLwFnIfKC JFGOuqLw==; Received: from shell.armlinux.org.uk ([fd8f:7570:feb6:1:5054:ff:fe00:4ec]:41570) by pandora.armlinux.org.uk with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.98.2) (envelope-from ) id 1vxRQ0-000000005FN-1IFP; Tue, 03 Mar 2026 15:12:16 +0000 Received: from linux by shell.armlinux.org.uk with local (Exim 4.98.2) (envelope-from ) id 1vxRPy-0000000071n-4ABh; Tue, 03 Mar 2026 15:12:15 +0000 Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2026 15:12:14 +0000 From: "Russell King (Oracle)" To: Mark Brown Cc: Romain Gantois , Andrew Lunn , "David S. Miller" , Eric Dumazet , Jakub Kicinski , Paolo Abeni , Rob Herring , Krzysztof Kozlowski , Conor Dooley , Andrew Lunn , Heiner Kallweit , Liam Girdwood , Maxime Chevallier , Thomas Petazzoni , netdev@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 2/2] net: sfp: manage receiver and transmitter regulators Message-ID: References: <20260303-sfp-regulators-v1-0-7101ae34cb84@bootlin.com> <20260303-sfp-regulators-v1-2-7101ae34cb84@bootlin.com> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Sender: Russell King (Oracle) On Tue, Mar 03, 2026 at 02:22:40PM +0000, Mark Brown wrote: > On Tue, Mar 03, 2026 at 02:54:27PM +0100, Romain Gantois wrote: > > If phandles to receiver and/or transmitter regulators for an SFP device are > > found, enable them at probe time. > > The driver should unconditionally request whatever power the device > needs. ... and then we break everyone, just like you broke SATA, and I've never forgiven you for taking a principled line on this rather than a pragmatic approach. You're making the same mistake here. As we disagree, we're at a stalemate, the result of which will be a NACK to this patch set. Sorry. -- RMK's Patch system: https://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/ FTTP is here! 80Mbps down 10Mbps up. Decent connectivity at last!