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From: Simon Baatz <gmbnomis@gmail.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
Cc: Neal Cardwell <ncardwell@google.com>,
	Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@google.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>, Jon Maloy <jmaloy@redhat.com>,
	Jason Xing <kerneljasonxing@gmail.com>,
	mfreemon@cloudflare.com, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	Stefano Brivio <sbrivio@redhat.com>,
	Matthieu Baerts <matttbe@kernel.org>,
	Mat Martineau <martineau@kernel.org>,
	Geliang Tang <geliang@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	mptcp@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 6/6] selftests/net: packetdrill: add tcp_rcv_neg_window.pkt
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2026 22:51:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <abh7Z5GEhEzty18d@gandalf.schnuecks.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <abWVuS1XJaKrndJw@gandalf.schnuecks.de>

On Sat, Mar 14, 2026 at 06:07:05PM +0100, Simon Baatz wrote:
> Hi Eric,
> 
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2026 at 04:58:28AM +0100, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 11, 2026 at 12:09???AM Simon Baatz <gmbnomis@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Eric,
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2026 at 09:54:58AM +0100, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Mar 9, 2026 at 9:03???AM Simon Baatz via B4 Relay
> > > > <devnull+gmbnomis.gmail.com@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Simon Baatz <gmbnomis@gmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > The test ensures we correctly apply the maximum advertised window limit
> > > > > when rcv_nxt advances past rcv_mwnd_seq, so that the "usable window"
> > > > > is properly clamped to zero rather than becoming negative.
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Simon Baatz <gmbnomis@gmail.com>
> > > > > ---
> > > > >  .../net/packetdrill/tcp_rcv_neg_window.pkt         | 26 ++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > > >  1 file changed, 26 insertions(+)
> > > > >
> > > > > diff --git a/tools/testing/selftests/net/packetdrill/tcp_rcv_neg_window.pkt b/tools/testing/selftests/net/packetdrill/tcp_rcv_neg_window.pkt
> > > > > new file mode 100644
> > > > > index 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..15a9b4938f16d175ac54f3fd192ed2b59b0a4399
> > > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > > +++ b/tools/testing/selftests/net/packetdrill/tcp_rcv_neg_window.pkt
> > > > > @@ -0,0 +1,26 @@
> > > > > +// SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0
> > > > > +
> > > > > +--mss=1000
> > > > > +
> > > > > +`./defaults.sh`
> > > > > +
> > > > > +// Establish a connection.
> > > > > +   +0 socket(..., SOCK_STREAM, IPPROTO_TCP) = 3
> > > > > +   +0 setsockopt(3, SOL_SOCKET, SO_REUSEADDR, [1], 4) = 0
> > > > > +   +0 setsockopt(3, SOL_SOCKET, SO_RCVBUF, [20000], 4) = 0
> > > > > +   +0 bind(3, ..., ...) = 0
> > > > > +   +0 listen(3, 1) = 0
> > > > > +
> > > > > +   +0 < S 0:0(0) win 32792 <mss 1000,nop,wscale 7>
> > > > > +   +0 > S. 0:0(0) ack 1 win 18980 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0>
> > > > > +  +.1 < . 1:1(0) ack 1 win 257
> > > > > +
> > > > > +   +0 accept(3, ..., ...) = 4
> > > > > +
> > > > > +// A too big packet is accepted if the receive queue is empty
> > > > > +   +0 < P. 1:20001(20000) ack 1 win 257
> > > >
> > > > We do not see the answer, it seems this test is not complete ?
> > >
> > > Actually we do not want to see an answer.  The packet won't trigger
> > > an immediate ACK (it is larger than the advertised window, but does
> > > not cause immediate memory pressure).
> > >
> > > When we then send a RST before the delayed ACK would be generated:
> > >
> > > > > +// Send a RST immediately so that there is no rcv_wup/rcv_mwnd_seq update yet
> > > > > +   +0 < R. 20001:20001(0) ack 1 win 257
> > >
> > > We are in a state where rcv_wup, rcv_wnd, and rcv_mwnd_seq have not
> > > been updated yet, but we must still accept the RST
> > > (rcv_nxt == 20001 > rcv_mwnd_seq, tcp_max_receive_window() == 0)
> > >
> > > > > +
> > > > > +  +.1 %{ assert tcpi_state == TCP_CLOSE, tcpi_state }%
> > >
> > > And we verify that we accepted the RST here.
> > >
> > > Given how subtle this sequence is, and considering the limited value
> > > of this test, I am also fine with dropping it if it is too fragile or
> > > confusing.
> > 
> > Sorry I missed your answer.
> > 
> > Ok then please use :
> > 
> > // A too big packet is accepted if the receive queue is empty
> >    +0 < P. 1:20001(20000) ack 1 win 257
> >    +0 %{ assert tcpi_bytes_received == 20000, tcpi_bytes_received;
> > assert tcpi_bytes_acked == 0, tcpi_bytes_acked }%
> 
> Unfortunately, tcpi_bytes_acked is the TX direction, it will always
> be 0 here.
> 
> Instead, we can still test that the oversized packet is accepted and
> indirectly verify that no immediate ACK is sent by eliciting and
> checking a RST:
> 
> // A too big packet is accepted if the receive queue is empty, but does not trigger
> // an immediate ACK.
>    +0 < P. 1:20001(20000) ack 1 win 257
>    +0 %{ assert tcpi_bytes_received == 20000, tcpi_bytes_received; }%
> 
> // Send a RST immediately so that there is no rcv_wup/rcv_mwnd_seq update yet
>    +0 < R. 20001:20001(0) ack 1 win 257
> 
> // Verify that the RST was accepted. Indirectly this also verifies that no immediate
> // ACK was sent for the data packet above.
>    +0 < . 20001:20001(0) ack 1 win 257
>     * > R 1:1(0)
> 
> As the series is merged now (thank you!), I will send this
> separately, as suggested.

Patch is at: https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20260316-improve_tcp_neg_usable_wnd_test-v1-1-f16d5e365107@gmail.com/

-- 
Simon Baatz <gmbnomis@gmail.com>

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-16 21:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-09  8:02 [PATCH net-next v3 0/6] tcp: RFC 7323-compliant window retraction handling Simon Baatz via B4 Relay
2026-03-09  8:02 ` [PATCH net-next v3 1/6] tcp: implement RFC 7323 window retraction receiver requirements Simon Baatz via B4 Relay
2026-03-09  9:22   ` Eric Dumazet
2026-03-09 18:35     ` Simon Baatz
2026-03-10  7:40       ` Eric Dumazet
2026-03-10  8:58   ` Stefano Brivio
2026-03-10 22:34     ` Simon Baatz
2026-03-09  8:02 ` [PATCH net-next v3 2/6] mptcp: keep rcv_mwnd_seq in sync with subflow rcv_wnd Simon Baatz via B4 Relay
2026-03-10  8:46   ` Eric Dumazet
2026-03-11 18:27   ` Matthieu Baerts
2026-03-11 22:08     ` Simon Baatz
2026-03-12 11:01       ` Matthieu Baerts
2026-03-09  8:02 ` [PATCH net-next v3 3/6] tcp: increase LINUX_MIB_BEYOND_WINDOW for SKB_DROP_REASON_TCP_OVERWINDOW Simon Baatz via B4 Relay
2026-03-09  9:27   ` Eric Dumazet
2026-03-09  8:02 ` [PATCH net-next v3 4/6] selftests/net: packetdrill: add tcp_rcv_wnd_shrink_nomem.pkt Simon Baatz via B4 Relay
2026-03-10  8:46   ` Eric Dumazet
2026-03-09  8:02 ` [PATCH net-next v3 5/6] selftests/net: packetdrill: add tcp_rcv_wnd_shrink_allowed.pkt Simon Baatz via B4 Relay
2026-03-10  8:52   ` Eric Dumazet
2026-03-09  8:02 ` [PATCH net-next v3 6/6] selftests/net: packetdrill: add tcp_rcv_neg_window.pkt Simon Baatz via B4 Relay
2026-03-10  8:54   ` Eric Dumazet
2026-03-10 23:09     ` Simon Baatz
2026-03-14  3:58       ` Eric Dumazet
2026-03-14 14:55         ` Eric Dumazet
2026-03-14 15:01           ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-14 17:07         ` Simon Baatz
2026-03-16 21:51           ` Simon Baatz [this message]
2026-03-14 15:40 ` [PATCH net-next v3 0/6] tcp: RFC 7323-compliant window retraction handling patchwork-bot+netdevbpf

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