From: Steffen Klassert <steffen.klassert@secunet.com>
To: Qingfang Deng <dqfext@gmail.com>
Cc: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>,
<netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org>, <davem@davemloft.net>,
<netdev@vger.kernel.org>, <kuba@kernel.org>, <pabeni@redhat.com>,
<edumazet@google.com>, <fw@strlen.de>, <horms@kernel.org>,
<antony.antony@secunet.com>, Felix Fietkau <nbd@nbd.name>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next,RFC 0/8] netfilter: flowtable bulking
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2026 12:28:08 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <abvdyDVJ8OYW52fw@secunet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260319061520.356946-1-dqfext@gmail.com>
On Thu, Mar 19, 2026 at 02:15:17PM +0800, Qingfang Deng wrote:
> Hi Pablo,
>
> On Tue, 17 Mar 2026 12:29:09 +0100, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Back in 2018 [1], a new fast forwarding combining the flowtable and
> > GRO/GSO was proposed, however, "GRO is specialized to optimize the
> > non-forwarding case", so it was considered "counter-intuitive to base a
> > fast forwarding path on top of it".
> >
> > Then, Steffen Klassert proposed the idea of adding a new engine for the
> > flowtable that operates on the skb list that is provided after the NAPI
> > cycle. The idea is to process this skb list to create bulks grouped by
> > the ethertype, output device, next hop and tos/dscp. Then, add a
> > specialized xmit path that can deal with these skb bulks. Note that GRO
> > needs to be disabled so this new forwarding engine obtains the list of
> > skbs that resulted from the NAPI cycle.
>
> +Cc: Felix Fietkau
>
> How does this compare to fraglist GRO with the original flowtable?
GRO can only aggregate packets of the same L4 flow. This can
aggregate all packets the are treated the same by the
forwarding path. Packets need to have the same output device
and next hop, but can be from different L3 and L4 flows.
Packet forwarders usually receive many different flows.
GRO might not even kick in if there are not at least
two packets from the same flow on a napi cycle.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-19 11:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-17 11:29 [PATCH net-next,RFC 0/8] netfilter: flowtable bulking Pablo Neira Ayuso
2026-03-17 11:29 ` [PATCH net-next,RFC 1/8] netfilter: flowtable: Add basic bulking infrastructure for early ingress hook Pablo Neira Ayuso
2026-03-17 11:29 ` [PATCH net-next,RFC 2/8] netfilter: flowtable: Add IPv6 " Pablo Neira Ayuso
2026-03-17 11:29 ` [PATCH net-next,RFC 3/8] netfilter: nf_tables: add flowtable early_ingress support Pablo Neira Ayuso
2026-03-17 11:29 ` [PATCH net-next,RFC 4/8] netfilter: nf_tables: add nft_set_pktinfo_ingress() Pablo Neira Ayuso
2026-03-17 11:29 ` [PATCH net-next,RFC 5/8] netfilter: nf_tables: add early ingress chain Pablo Neira Ayuso
2026-03-17 11:29 ` [PATCH net-next,RFC 6/8] net: add dev_dst_drop() helper function Pablo Neira Ayuso
2026-03-17 11:29 ` [PATCH net-next,RFC 7/8] net: add dev_noqueue_xmit_list() " Pablo Neira Ayuso
2026-03-17 11:29 ` [PATCH net-next,RFC 8/8] net: add dev_queue_xmit_list() and use it Pablo Neira Ayuso
2026-03-17 11:39 ` [PATCH net-next,RFC 0/8] netfilter: flowtable bulking Pablo Neira Ayuso
2026-03-19 6:15 ` Qingfang Deng
2026-03-19 11:28 ` Steffen Klassert [this message]
2026-03-19 12:18 ` Felix Fietkau
2026-03-20 6:49 ` Steffen Klassert
2026-03-20 8:50 ` Felix Fietkau
2026-03-20 9:00 ` Steffen Klassert
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