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From: Stanislav Fomichev <stfomichev@gmail.com>
To: Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@google.com>,
	Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>,
	metze@samba.org, axboe@kernel.dk,
	Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@fomichev.me>,
	io-uring@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 2/4] net: call getsockopt_iter if available
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2026 11:10:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ac1fjvVDfatpXwPY@mini-arch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ac1Pzt4tpt73SkC6@gmail.com>

On 04/01, Breno Leitao wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 01, 2026 at 09:34:04AM -0700, Stanislav Fomichev wrote:
> > > +static int do_sock_getsockopt_iter(struct socket *sock,
> > > +				   const struct proto_ops *ops, int level,
> > > +				   int optname, sockptr_t optval,
> > > +				   sockptr_t optlen)
> >
> > If we want to eventually remove sockptr_t, why not make this new handler
> > work with iov_iters from the beginning? The callers can have some new temporary
> > sockptr_to_iter() or something?
> 
> The goal is to eliminate __user memory from the callbacks entirely, which
> would make sockptr_t unnecessary. This series removes the callbacks that
> originally necessitated sockptr_t's existence.
> 
> Therefore, working from the callbacks back to userspace seem to be a more
> logical approach than replacing the middle layers of the implementation,
> and then touching the callbacks.
> 
> So, yes, the sockptr_t() is used here as temporary glue to be able to
> get rid of the elephant in the room.

So maybe something like this is better to communicate your long term intent?

	} else if (ops->getsockopt_iter) {
		optval = sockptr_to_iter(optval)
		optlen = sockptr_to_iter(optlen)
		do_sock_getsockopt_iter(...) /* does not know what sockpt_t is */
	}

?

Then your new do_sock_getsockopt_iter is sockptr-free from the beginning
and at some point we'll just drop/move those sockptr_to_iter calls?
 
> > > +	/* iter is initialized as ITER_DEST. Callbacks that need to read
> > > +	 * from optval (e.g. PACKET_HDRLEN) must flip data_source to
> > > +	 * ITER_SOURCE, then restore ITER_DEST before writing back.
> > > +	 */
> >
> > Have you considered creating two iters? opt.iter_in and opt.iter_out.
> > That way you don't have to flip the source back and forth in the
> > handlers.
> 
> That's a good suggestion I hadn't considered. My initial thought was to
> create a helper like sockopt_read_val() to handle the flip-read-flip
> dance.
> 
> Would opt.iter_in and opt.iter_out be clearer than the helper approach?
> 
> Thanks for the review,
> --breno

I hope this way it will be easier to review protocol handler changes.

For example, looking at your AF_PACKET patch, you won't have to care
about flipping the source and doing the revert. Most/all of the changes will
be simple:
- s/get_user(len, optlen)/len = opt->optlen/
- s/put_user(len, optlen)/opt->optlen = len/
- s/copy_from_user(xxx, optval, len)/copy_from_iter(xxx, len, &opt->iter_in)/
- s/copy_to_user(optval, xxx, len)/copy_to_iter(xxx, len, &opt->iter_out)/

Might be even possible to express these with coccinelle?

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-01 18:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-01 15:44 [PATCH net-next v2 0/4] net: move .getsockopt away from __user buffers Breno Leitao
2026-04-01 15:44 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/4] net: add getsockopt_iter callback to proto_ops Breno Leitao
2026-04-01 15:44 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/4] net: call getsockopt_iter if available Breno Leitao
2026-04-01 16:34   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-04-01 17:43     ` Breno Leitao
2026-04-01 18:10       ` Stanislav Fomichev [this message]
2026-04-02 15:39         ` Breno Leitao
2026-04-02 23:00           ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-04-01 15:44 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/4] af_packet: convert to getsockopt_iter Breno Leitao
2026-04-01 15:44 ` [PATCH net-next v2 4/4] can: raw: " Breno Leitao

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