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From: Stanislav Fomichev <stfomichev@gmail.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 03/13] net: introduce ndo_set_rx_mode_async and dev_rx_mode_work
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2026 08:06:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <acP59NM6HZhV9oAe@mini-arch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260324204440.1752423d@kernel.org>

On 03/24, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Mar 2026 15:49:27 -0700 Stanislav Fomichev wrote:
> > > > Not sure why cancel+release, maybe you're thinking about the unregister
> > > > path? This is rtnl_unlock -> netdev_run_todo -> __rtnl_unlock + some
> > > > extras.
> > > > 
> > > > And the flush is here to plumb the addresses to the real devices
> > > > before we return to the callers. Mostly because of the following
> > > > things we have in the tests:
> > > > 
> > > > # TEST: team cleanup mode lacp                                        [FAIL]
> > > > #       macvlan unicast address not found on a slave
> > > > 
> > > > Can you explain a bit more on the suggestion?  
> > > 
> > > Oh, I thought it's here for unregister! Feels like it'd be cleaner to
> > > add the flush in dev_*c_add() and friends? How hard would it be to
> > > identify the callers in atomic context?  
> > 
> > Not sure we can do it in dev_xc_add because it runs under rtnl :-(
> > I currently do flush in netdev_run_todo because that's the place that
> > doesn't hold rtnl. Otherwise flush will get stuck because the work
> > handler grabs it...
> 
> I was thinking of something a'la linkwatch. We can "steal" / "flush"
> the pending work inline. I guess linkwatch is a major source of races
> over the years...
>
> Does the macvlan + team problem still happens with the current
> implementation minus the flush? We are only flushing once so only
> pushing the addresses thru one layer of async callbacks.

Yes, it does happen consistently when I remove the flush. It also
happens with my internal v4, so I need to look again at what's going on.
Not sure whether it's my internal regression or I was just sloppy/lucky
(since you're correct in pointing out that we flush only once).

Before I went down the workqueue route, I had a simple
net_todo_list-like approach: `list_add_tail` on enqueue and
`while(!list_empty) run_work()` on rtnl_unlock. This had a nice properly of
tracking re-submissions (by checking whether the device's list_head is
linked into the list or not) and it was relatively easy to do the
recursive flush. Let me try get back to this approach and see whether
it solves the flush? Not sure what wq buys us at this point.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-25 15:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-20  1:24 [PATCH net-next v3 00/13] net: sleepable ndo_set_rx_mode Stanislav Fomichev
2026-03-20  1:24 ` [PATCH net-next v3 01/13] net: add address list snapshot and reconciliation infrastructure Stanislav Fomichev
2026-03-23 23:20   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-24 18:13     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-03-20  1:24 ` [PATCH net-next v3 02/13] wifi: cfg80211: use __rtnl_unlock in nl80211_pre_doit Stanislav Fomichev
2026-03-20  1:24 ` [PATCH net-next v3 03/13] net: introduce ndo_set_rx_mode_async and dev_rx_mode_work Stanislav Fomichev
2026-03-20  7:13   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Loktionov, Aleksandr
2026-03-20 15:49     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-03-23 23:20   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-24 18:13     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-03-24 21:21       ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-24 22:49         ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-03-25  3:44           ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-25 15:06             ` Stanislav Fomichev [this message]
2026-03-25 17:34               ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-03-20  1:24 ` [PATCH net-next v3 04/13] net: move promiscuity handling into dev_rx_mode_work Stanislav Fomichev
2026-03-20  8:01   ` Loktionov, Aleksandr
2026-03-20 15:41     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-03-20  1:24 ` [PATCH net-next v3 05/13] fbnic: convert to ndo_set_rx_mode_async Stanislav Fomichev
2026-03-20  1:24 ` [PATCH net-next v3 06/13] mlx5: " Stanislav Fomichev
2026-03-20 14:47   ` Cosmin Ratiu
2026-03-20 15:42     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-03-20  1:24 ` [PATCH net-next v3 07/13] bnxt: " Stanislav Fomichev
2026-03-24  0:47   ` Michael Chan
2026-03-20  1:24 ` [PATCH net-next v3 08/13] bnxt: use snapshot in bnxt_cfg_rx_mode Stanislav Fomichev
2026-03-20  7:51   ` Loktionov, Aleksandr
2026-03-24  1:08   ` Michael Chan
2026-03-24 18:29     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-03-20  1:24 ` [PATCH net-next v3 09/13] iavf: convert to ndo_set_rx_mode_async Stanislav Fomichev
2026-03-20  7:53   ` Loktionov, Aleksandr
2026-03-20  1:24 ` [PATCH net-next v3 10/13] netdevsim: " Stanislav Fomichev
2026-03-20  1:24 ` [PATCH net-next v3 11/13] dummy: " Stanislav Fomichev
2026-03-20  7:54   ` Loktionov, Aleksandr
2026-03-20  1:25 ` [PATCH net-next v3 12/13] net: warn ops-locked drivers still using ndo_set_rx_mode Stanislav Fomichev
2026-03-20  7:55   ` Loktionov, Aleksandr
2026-03-20  1:25 ` [PATCH net-next v3 13/13] selftests: net: add team_bridge_macvlan rx_mode test Stanislav Fomichev

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