From: Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@kernel.org>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
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Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@oss.qualcomm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 02/15] firmware: qcom: Add a generic PAS service
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2026 12:38:37 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <acohdYeKYSDQrKUZ@sumit-xelite> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a0a7269d-7a09-4a78-a4b0-b39b67bc253b@kernel.org>
On Fri, Mar 27, 2026 at 02:56:40PM +0100, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 23/03/2026 15:26, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
> >>>
> >>> This pattern has been carried from the PAS API contract among kernel
> >>> clients and the SCM PAS service earlier. The clients don't hold a
> >>> reference to the PAS data like underlying platform or TEE device etc.
> >>> Hence the need to have a global data pointer to hold reference to the
> >>> ops data structure registered by drivers having different lifetime of
> >>> devices. Also, the PAS APIs can be called from very different client
> >>> driver contexts.
> >>>
> >>> Surely, avoiding global data is always better given a better alternative
> >>> is there. Do you have any better alternative proposal here?
> >>
> >> Why it cannot be part of the context?
> >>
> >> Look at your API, e.g.:
> >> qcom_pas_init_image(). It takes struct qcom_pas_context which should
> >> contain the ops.
Have a look at all other PAS client APIs, the context isn't something
that each client takes a reference and pass it on for every PAS
invocation. And changing the PAS API contract for kernel clients is out
of scope of this patch-set.
> >
> > This would make the client have to select the ops. The whole point is to
> > avoid that, since the client has no clue (and is supposed not to have any).
>
> Yeah, I see. The problem is that this patchset just keeps growing the
> singletons so except existing 'struct qcom_scm *__scm' in qcom_scm.c,
> this one brings at least three new: 'ops_ptr', 'qcom_pas_ops_scm' and
> 'qcom_pas_ops_tee'.
Not sure how you equate ops structure __pointer__ to the ops structure
itself. Can you enlighten me how in the rest of the kernel ops data
structures are shared among independent modules registering on different
bus types?
>
> I don't think you need all four in total, but only one which will hold
> whatever pointers are necessary.
Your arguments seems to be in favour of the existing monolithic SCM
driver design but you need to understand that's not how underlying TZ
services are implemented. The PAS service in TZ has nothing to do with
the ICE service for inline crypto as an example.
Please go through the motivation of this patch-set and the corresponding
OP-TEE implementation as TZ which is all open source.
-Sumit
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-30 7:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-12 6:27 [PATCH v2 00/15] firmware: qcom: Add OP-TEE PAS service support Sumit Garg
2026-03-12 6:27 ` [PATCH v2 01/15] arm64: dts: qcom: kodiak: Add EL2 overlay Sumit Garg
2026-03-13 6:04 ` Mukesh Ojha
2026-03-23 12:35 ` Sumit Garg
2026-03-12 6:27 ` [PATCH v2 02/15] firmware: qcom: Add a generic PAS service Sumit Garg
2026-03-13 7:24 ` Mukesh Ojha
2026-03-13 7:31 ` Mukesh Ojha
2026-03-23 12:55 ` Sumit Garg
2026-03-23 12:50 ` Sumit Garg
2026-03-27 13:39 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-03-30 6:29 ` Sumit Garg
2026-03-13 7:59 ` Mukesh Ojha
2026-03-23 13:01 ` Sumit Garg
2026-03-15 16:33 ` Harshal Dev
2026-03-23 13:12 ` Sumit Garg
2026-03-16 7:51 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-03-16 23:02 ` Trilok Soni
2026-03-23 13:22 ` Sumit Garg
2026-03-23 14:19 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-03-23 14:26 ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-03-27 13:56 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-03-30 7:08 ` Sumit Garg [this message]
2026-03-12 6:27 ` [PATCH v2 03/15] firmware: qcom_scm: Migrate to " Sumit Garg
2026-03-13 7:56 ` Mukesh Ojha
2026-03-23 13:33 ` Sumit Garg
2026-03-27 12:10 ` Harshal Dev
2026-03-27 12:18 ` Sumit Garg
2026-03-12 6:27 ` [PATCH v2 04/15] firmware: qcom: Add a PAS TEE service Sumit Garg
2026-03-13 11:07 ` Mukesh Ojha
2026-03-23 13:38 ` Sumit Garg
2026-03-12 6:27 ` [PATCH v2 05/15] remoteproc: qcom_q6v5_pas: Switch over to generic PAS TZ APIs Sumit Garg
2026-03-12 6:27 ` [PATCH v2 06/15] remoteproc: qcom_q6v5_mss: Switch " Sumit Garg
2026-03-12 6:27 ` [PATCH v2 07/15] soc: qcom: mdtloader: " Sumit Garg
2026-03-12 6:27 ` [PATCH v2 08/15] remoteproc: qcom_wcnss: " Sumit Garg
2026-03-12 6:27 ` [PATCH v2 09/15] remoteproc: qcom: Select QCOM_PAS_TEE service backend Sumit Garg
2026-03-12 6:27 ` [PATCH v2 10/15] drm/msm: Switch to generic PAS TZ APIs Sumit Garg
2026-03-12 6:27 ` [PATCH v2 11/15] media: qcom: " Sumit Garg
2026-03-12 6:27 ` [PATCH v2 12/15] net: ipa: " Sumit Garg
2026-03-12 6:27 ` [PATCH v2 13/15] wifi: ath12k: " Sumit Garg
2026-03-12 6:27 ` [PATCH v2 14/15] firmware: qcom_scm: Remove SCM PAS wrappers Sumit Garg
2026-03-12 6:27 ` [PATCH v2 15/15] MAINTAINERS: Add maintainer entry for Qualcomm PAS TZ service Sumit Garg
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