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From: Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: tom@opengridcomputing.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org, akpm@osdl.org
Subject: Re: RDMA will be reverted
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 13:29:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <adaac7naj80.fsf@cisco.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060705.112703.71101840.davem@davemloft.net> (David Miller's message of "Wed, 05 Jul 2006 11:27:03 -0700 (PDT)")

 > Then why in the world would we put up explicit web pages that
 > say "TOE is bad, here's a list of reasons why" if we had any
 > intention of ever adding support for these kinds of devices?

I think there's a little bit of leap of logic there.  Everyone agrees
that winmodems are bad and yet there's still drivers/char/mwave.  This
TOE-phobia feels almost as if in the middle of one of those silly IDE
vs. SCSI flamewars, someone declared that Linux shouldn't have IDE drivers.

 > It's going to be difficult to discuss RDMA and iWARP sanely unless you
 > accept the indisputable fact that we've rejected TOE as a technology
 > entirely, and it is an example of precedence for disallowing support
 > for entire classes of hardware.

Fine.  I don't think I have much more to add to the discussion anyway.
The way forward seems to be to merge basic iWARP support that lives in
drivers/infiniband, and then you can accept or reject things for
better integration, like notifiers for routing changes.

 - R.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-07-05 20:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-28  7:07 RDMA will be reverted David Miller
2006-06-28  7:41 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-06-28 14:56 ` Tom Tucker
2006-06-28 15:01 ` Steve Wise
2006-06-29 16:54 ` Roland Dreier
2006-06-29 17:32   ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2006-06-29 17:35     ` Roland Dreier
2006-06-29 17:40       ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2006-06-29 19:46   ` David Miller
2006-06-29 20:11     ` Tom Tucker
2006-06-29 20:16       ` Tom Tucker
2006-06-29 20:19       ` David Miller
2006-06-29 20:47         ` Tom Tucker
2006-06-29 20:53           ` David Miller
2006-06-29 21:28             ` Tom Tucker
2006-06-29 21:25         ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-29 20:42       ` James Morris
2006-06-30 20:51     ` Roland Dreier
2006-06-30 21:16       ` David Miller
2006-06-30 23:01         ` Tom Tucker
2006-07-01 14:26           ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-04 18:34             ` Andy Gay
2006-07-04 20:47               ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-04 22:22                 ` Andy Gay
2006-07-04 23:01                   ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-04 23:48                     ` Andy Gay
2006-07-05  0:04                       ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-04 20:34             ` Roland Dreier
2006-07-24 22:06               ` David Miller
2006-07-24 23:10                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-24 23:22                   ` David Miller
2006-07-25  0:02                     ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-25  0:29                       ` Rick Jones
2006-07-25  0:45                         ` David Miller
2006-07-25  0:55                           ` Rick Jones
2006-07-25  1:04                             ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-25  1:21                             ` David Miller
2006-07-25 16:29                               ` Rick Jones
2006-07-25 16:32                                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-25  1:03                           ` Rick Jones
2006-07-25  1:42                         ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-25  5:51                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-25  6:48                   ` David Miller
2006-07-25  6:59                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-25  7:33                       ` David Miller
2006-07-25  7:42                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-05 17:09             ` Tom Tucker
2006-07-05 17:50               ` Steve Wise
2006-07-24 22:25                 ` David Miller
2006-07-24 22:47                   ` Caitlin Bestler
2006-07-24 22:23               ` David Miller
2006-07-24 22:57                 ` Caitlin Bestler
2006-07-01 21:45           ` David Miller
2006-07-04 20:34             ` Roland Dreier
2006-07-05 18:27               ` David Miller
2006-07-05 20:29                 ` Roland Dreier [this message]
2006-07-06  3:03                   ` David Miller
2006-07-06  5:25                     ` Tom Tucker
2006-07-06 14:08                       ` Herbert Xu
2006-07-06 17:36                         ` Tom Tucker
2006-07-07  0:03                           ` Herbert Xu
2006-07-07  0:32                             ` Tom Tucker
2006-07-07  6:53                       ` David Miller
2006-07-07  8:11                         ` What is RDMA (was: RDMA will be reverted) Herbert Xu
2006-07-07 18:25                           ` Steve Wise
2006-07-11  8:17                             ` Herbert Xu
2006-07-11 13:27                               ` Steve Wise
2006-07-24 22:29                           ` What is RDMA David Miller
2006-07-24 22:34                             ` Rick Jones
2006-07-24 22:39                               ` David Miller
2006-07-24 22:49                               ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-07 13:29                         ` RDMA will be reverted Tom Tucker
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-07-06 13:26 Caitlin Bestler
2006-07-25 19:59 Tom Tucker

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