From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: Kory Maincent <kory.maincent@bootlin.com>,
Carlo Szelinsky <github@szelinsky.de>,
o.rempel@pengutronix.de, andrew+netdev@lunn.ch,
hkallweit1@gmail.com, kuba@kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
edumazet@google.com, pabeni@redhat.com, horms@kernel.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 3/3] net: mdio: treat PSE EPROBE_DEFER as non-fatal during PHY registration
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2026 17:08:33 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <adfPAQDiYX6eIjrT@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <908a84be-d403-4f59-8d8e-aa9de35bccbb@lunn.ch>
On Thu, Apr 09, 2026 at 05:34:56PM +0200, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> I still think we should be deferring probe until we have all the parts
> available. The question is, how do we actually do that?
Indeed...
> We could insist that MACs being used with PSE need to call
> phylink_connect() in probe, so we can return EPROBE_DEFER. We might
> actually need a new API method, phylink_connect_probe(). That can call
> down into phylib, maybe again new API methods, which will not bind
> genphy, but return EPROBE_DEFER.
How would MACs know whether they should call phylink_connect_probe()
or phylink_connect_phy() ?
What do we do about MAC drivers that are a single driver and device,
but are made up of several network devices (like Marvell PP2) ?
We also have network drivers that provide a MDIO bus for a different
network device, which makes connecting the PHY harder in the probe
path.
Lastly, what do we do where a PHY driver hasn't been configured or
doesn't exist for the PHY?
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-09 16:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-29 16:10 [PATCH 0/3] net: pse-pd: support module-based PSE controller drivers Carlo Szelinsky
2026-03-29 16:10 ` [PATCH 1/3] net: mdio: treat PSE EPROBE_DEFER as non-fatal during PHY registration Carlo Szelinsky
2026-03-30 11:16 ` Kory Maincent
2026-03-29 16:10 ` [PATCH 2/3] net: pse-pd: prevent regulator cleanup from disabling unclaimed PSE PIs Carlo Szelinsky
2026-03-30 11:17 ` Kory Maincent
2026-03-29 16:10 ` [PATCH 3/3] net: pse-pd: add lazy PSE control resolution for modular drivers Carlo Szelinsky
2026-03-30 11:23 ` Kory Maincent
2026-03-30 11:09 ` [PATCH 0/3] net: pse-pd: support module-based PSE controller drivers Kory Maincent
2026-03-30 13:29 ` [PATCH net-next v2 " Carlo Szelinsky
2026-03-30 13:29 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/3] net: pse-pd: prevent regulator cleanup from disabling unclaimed PSE PIs Carlo Szelinsky
2026-04-01 2:28 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-04-06 10:22 ` Oleksij Rempel
2026-03-30 13:29 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/3] net: pse-pd: add lazy PSE control resolution for modular drivers Carlo Szelinsky
2026-03-30 13:29 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/3] net: mdio: treat PSE EPROBE_DEFER as non-fatal during PHY registration Carlo Szelinsky
2026-03-30 14:11 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-04-03 13:31 ` Carlo Szelinsky
2026-04-03 13:38 ` Kory Maincent
2026-04-06 8:42 ` Oleksij Rempel
2026-04-07 9:31 ` Kory Maincent
2026-04-03 15:16 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-04-05 18:57 ` Carlo Szelinsky
2026-04-06 9:30 ` Oleksij Rempel
2026-04-06 12:22 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-04-06 14:12 ` Oleksij Rempel
2026-04-07 9:40 ` Kory Maincent
2026-04-06 12:42 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-04-06 14:43 ` Carlo Szelinsky
2026-04-06 15:21 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-04-08 21:07 ` Carlo Szelinsky
2026-04-08 21:56 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-04-09 12:30 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-04-09 13:09 ` Kory Maincent
2026-04-09 15:34 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-04-09 16:08 ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2026-04-09 19:54 ` Andrew Lunn
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