From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Ben Greear Subject: Re: RFC: per-socket statistics on received/dropped packets Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 23:26:40 -0700 Sender: owner-netdev@oss.sgi.com Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Mark Mielke , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@oss.sgi.com Return-path: To: Pekka Savola List-Id: netdev.vger.kernel.org Pekka Savola wrote: > Just to chime in my support (not that I don't think anyone needs it), I > think socket-based counters are An Extremely Bad Idea. Several folks have produced arguments with details showing how they can use the counters to better their product and/or debugging. Just waving your hands and saying you don't like it does not invalidate their claims. Please go back and read the thread and then, if you're able, put forth some valid arguments for how to accomplish the goals in some other manner, or show the negatives of including the feature. If they are useful to some people, and have zero performance affect on others (due to being a configurable kernel feature), then what is your complaint? I see two reasons left to dislike this feature: 1) General increase in #ifdef'd code. This actually seems like a pretty good argument, but I haven't seen anyone mention it specifically. 2) General dislike for a feature that one personally has no use for. Seems to be Dave's main (professed) excuse. Please add to this list, but back up your claims. Thanks, Ben -- Ben Greear President of Candela Technologies Inc http://www.candelatech.com ScryMUD: http://scry.wanfear.com http://scry.wanfear.com/~greear