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From: Horst von Brand <vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl>
To: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: RFC: per-socket statistics on received/dropped packets
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 08:11:45 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ae7dvs$vc7$2@main.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Message from Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com> of "Tue, 11 Jun 2002 23:26:40 MST." <3D06E9A0.5060801@candelatech.com>

[Cc:'s stripped]

Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com> said:
> Pekka Savola wrote:
> > Just to chime in my support (not that I don't think anyone needs it), I 
> > think socket-based counters are An Extremely Bad Idea.  

[...]

> If they are useful to some people, and have zero performance affect on others
> (due to being a configurable kernel feature), then what is your
> complaint?

That it adds code, which impacts _everybody_ futzing around in that area,
specially if it is a configurable option (this means multiplying the
possible configurations to be tested).

> I see two reasons left to dislike this feature:
> 
> 1)  General increase in #ifdef'd code.  This actually seems like
>     a pretty good argument, but I haven't seen anyone mention it
>     specifically.

Right.

> 2)  General dislike for a feature that one personally has no use for.
>     Seems to be Dave's main (professed) excuse.

General dislike for adding features of _extremely_ limited (debugging!) use?
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-06-12 12:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Message from Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
     [not found] ` <3D06E9A0.5060801@candelatech.com>
2002-06-12  6:32   ` RFC: per-socket statistics on received/dropped packets Pekka Savola
2002-06-12 12:11   ` Horst von Brand [this message]
     [not found]   ` <200206121211.g5CCBjZt030139@pincoya.inf.utfsm.cl>
2002-06-12 12:28     ` Lincoln Dale
     [not found] <5.1.0.14.2.20020613183120.03222cb8@mira-sjcm-3.cisco.com>
2002-06-13 10:10 ` David Schwartz
     [not found] <5.1.0.14.2.20020612221925.0283fb18@mira-sjcm-3.cisco.com>
2002-06-12 12:33 ` jamal
2002-06-12 12:44   ` Lincoln Dale
2002-06-12 12:44   ` Lincoln Dale
2002-06-12 12:44   ` Lincoln Dale
2002-06-13  7:21 ` David Schwartz
     [not found] ` <20020613072155.AAA14363@shell.webmaster.com@whenever>
2002-06-13  8:44   ` Lincoln Dale
2002-06-23  2:03 ` Alan Cox
     [not found] ` <E17LwjD-0003hT-00@the-village.bc.nu>
2002-06-23  2:05   ` Lincoln Dale
2002-06-12 20:30 Yan-Fa Li
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-06-12 20:30 Yan-Fa Li
     [not found] <20020612105355.A20760@mark.mielke.cc>
2002-06-12 15:57 ` jamal
2002-06-12 17:00 ` Horst von Brand
     [not found] <5.1.0.14.2.20020612224038.0251bd08@mira-sjcm-3.cisco.com>
2002-06-12 13:00 ` jamal
     [not found] ` <Pine.GSO.4.30.0206120853320.799-100000@shell.cyberus.ca>
2002-06-12 14:53   ` Mark Mielke
2002-06-12 14:53   ` Mark Mielke
     [not found] ` <5.1.0.14.2.20020614100914.01adca48@mira-sjcm-3.cisco.com>
2002-06-14 15:51   ` Stephen Hemminger
     [not found]   ` <1024069878.20676.1.camel@dell_ss3.pdx.osdl.net>
2002-06-14 18:09     ` Ben Greear
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44.0206120930160.29780-100000@netcore.fi>
2002-06-12  6:49 ` Ben Greear
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44.0206120905510.29780-100000@netcore.fi>
2002-06-12  6:26 ` Ben Greear
2002-06-06 19:37 Chris Friesen
2002-06-07  3:21 ` David S. Miller
2002-06-07 15:34   ` Chris Friesen
2002-06-07 22:15   ` Ben Greear
     [not found]   ` <3D01307C.4090503@candelatech.com>
2002-06-08 21:05     ` Mark Mielke
2002-06-08 23:04       ` David S. Miller
     [not found]       ` <20020608.160407.101346167.davem@redhat.com>
2002-06-09  0:13         ` Ben Greear
     [not found]         ` <3D029DAF.5040006@candelatech.com>
2002-06-09  0:51           ` David S. Miller
     [not found]           ` <20020608.175108.84748597.davem@redhat.com>
2002-06-09 18:23             ` Ben Greear
2002-06-10  4:34               ` David S. Miller
     [not found]               ` <20020609.213440.04716391.davem@redhat.com>
2002-06-10  5:55                 ` Mark Mielke
2002-06-10  6:08                 ` Ben Greear
2002-06-10 12:03                 ` Lincoln Dale
2002-06-10 12:18                   ` David S. Miller
2002-06-10 12:24                     ` jamal
2002-06-10 13:57                       ` Mark Mielke
2002-06-10 14:45                         ` jamal
2002-06-10 14:56                           ` jamal
2002-06-10 19:28                           ` Chris Friesen
2002-06-10 19:28                           ` Chris Friesen
2002-06-10 19:28                           ` Chris Friesen
2002-06-10 19:28                           ` Chris Friesen
2002-06-10 19:28                           ` Chris Friesen
2002-06-11 22:41                 ` Bill Davidsen
     [not found]                 ` <Pine.LNX.3.96.1020611183218.29598A-100000@gatekeeper.tmr.com>
2002-06-12  3:41                   ` David S. Miller
2002-06-12  3:57                     ` Richard Guy Briggs
2002-06-12  5:20                       ` Mark Mielke
     [not found]                       ` <20020612012004.A15773@mark.mielke.cc>
2002-06-12  6:08                         ` Pekka Savola
2002-06-12  9:18                         ` Sean Hunter
2002-06-09 14:47       ` Pekka Pietikäinen

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