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From: Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>
To: Askar Safin <safinaskar@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	 Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	 Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	 Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	 David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	patches@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] vmsplice: make vmsplice a trivial wrapper for preadv2/pwritev2
Date: Sun, 31 May 2026 09:54:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ahv16ogY8Zx3Rtox@pedro-suse.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260531010107.1953702-1-safinaskar@gmail.com>

On Sun, May 31, 2026 at 01:01:04AM +0000, Askar Safin wrote:
> This patchset is for VFS.
> 
> Recently we got a lot of vulnerabilities in splice/vmsplice.
> 
> Also vmsplice already was source of vulnerabilities in the past:
> CVE-2020-29374 (see https://lwn.net/Articles/849638/ ).
> 
> Also vmsplice is problematic for other reasons. Here is what other
> developers say:
> 
> Linus Torvalds in 2023:
> > So I'd personally be perfectly ok with just making vmsplice() be
> > exactly the same as write, and turn all of vmsplice() into just "it's
> > a read() if the pipe is open for read, and a write if it's open for
> > writing".
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAHk-=wgG_2cmHgZwKjydi7=iimyHyN8aessnbM9XQ9ufbaUz9g@mail.gmail.com/
> 
> Christoph Hellwig in May 2026:
> > vmsplice is the worst, as it is one of the few remaining places that
> > can incorrectly dirty file backed pages without telling the file system
> > and cause the other problems fixed by a FOLL_PIN conversion, but it is
> > the only one where we do not have any idea yet how we could convert it
> > to FOLL_PIN due to the unbounded pin time.
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/agwFlBKvKytjURDO@infradead.org/
> 
> See recent discussion here:
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260516182126.530498-1-pfalcato@suse.de/T/#u

So, you took an ongoing discussion with an ongoing RFC patchset, and you
decided to reimplement part of the idea on your own, as a concurrent patchset.

Riiiiiight.... I don't think I have to NAK this, do I?

> 
> For all these reasons I propose to make vmsplice a simple wrapper for
> preadv2/pwritev2.
> 
> vmsplice(fd, vec, vlen, vmsplice_flags) will
> be equivalent to preadv2(fd, vec, vlen, -1, rw_flags) if you have
> readable pipe and to pwritev2(fd, vec, vlen, -1, rw_flags) if you have
> writable pipe.

This does not work. https://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=vmsplice%28&literal=1
There are users.

-- 
Pedro

      parent reply	other threads:[~2026-05-31  8:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-31  1:01 [PATCH 0/3] vmsplice: make vmsplice a trivial wrapper for preadv2/pwritev2 Askar Safin
2026-05-31  1:01 ` [PATCH 1/3] tee: fs/splice.c: remove unused parameter "flags" from "link_pipe" Askar Safin
2026-05-31  1:01 ` [PATCH 2/3] vmsplice: make vmsplice a trivial wrapper for preadv2/pwritev2 Askar Safin
2026-05-31  1:01 ` [PATCH 3/3] splice: remove PIPE_BUF_FLAG_GIFT Askar Safin
2026-05-31  8:54 ` Pedro Falcato [this message]

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